2017 or newer F-450 issues

There's been a few recalls but nothing specific to the F450.

I'm not aware of any problems or recalls on my 2017 f350. As far as I know the f450 isn't much different.

https://www.thedieselstop.com/ forum will have all you want to know.

Well, what did you hear strikeu?
We all love rumors, conjecture and facts. Seems typically in that order as well. Lol.

My F350 had a couple of recalls for the block heater cord. Other than that the only warranty to work done in over 2 years was for a couple of leaking valve stems. The main difference between the 450 and 350 is 19.5 tires and a tighter turning radius on the 450. Drive trains are the same.

Grit dog wrote:
Well, what did you hear strikeu?
We all love rumors, conjecture and facts. Seems typically in that order as well. Lol.

the High pressure fuel pump fails a LOT in 2011-2017 6.7L powerstroke engines. there is a great many people trying to start a class action law suit on that issue. that particular fuel pump was made in Great Britain where the diesel is more "oily" than American specs. so when it runs with American standards diesel it disintegrates for lack of lubrication. it can destroy an entire engine to the tune of $10-15k.
it seems (no real data yet) that after 2017 there is a different fuel pump...so thats good if I am buying new, but not good for my 2012.

the next high fail item is / was the turbo. new turbo kits can be obtained but it seems the original turbo on the powerstrokes are some type of Rube Goldberg contraption that fails routinely. new turbo kits are ~$3k. this seems to be fixed in the 2015+ models,

bottom line is the 2017s are a bit too new to gather any real failure trends, but there are some significant data for the 2011-2017 6.7L powerstrokes. SO much that I am leaning back towards the RAM 3500.

strikeu wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Well, what did you hear strikeu?
We all love rumors, conjecture and facts. Seems typically in that order as well. Lol.

the High pressure fuel pump fails a LOT in 2011-2017 6.7L powerstroke engines. there is a great many people trying to start a class action law suit on that issue. that particular fuel pump was made in Great Britain where the diesel is more "oily" than American specs. so when it runs with American standards diesel it disintegrates for lack of lubrication. it can destroy an entire engine to the tune of $10-15k.
it seems (no real data yet) that after 2017 there is a different fuel pump...so thats good if I am buying new, but not good for my 2012.

the next high fail item is / was the turbo. new turbo kits can be obtained but it seems the original turbo on the powerstrokes are some type of Rube Goldberg contraption that fails routinely. new turbo kits are ~$3k. this seems to be fixed in the 2015+ models,

bottom line is the 2017s are a bit too new to gather any real failure trends, but there are some significant data for the 2011-2017 6.7L powerstrokes. SO much that I am leaning back towards the RAM 3500.

Could you post this data you have. No one has ever gave us exact numbers for this, just I saw this post on a forum about a failure. Glad someone is going to give us exact data so we can see the real failure rate and not just guesses anymore.

Ford I believe had Nox sensor issues thus extended warranty for years '11-'14 (I could be wrong). My '15 F350 was problem free when I traded it w/ 30K miles. My '17 F350 DRW also had the block heater cord replaced along w/ the DEF heater. Now I have a Nox sensor issue which Ford is trying to deny it's bad because their data says "That use of aftermarket fuel treatment can cause problems". It's been back to dealer 2x w/ same problem, going back for 3rd time tmrw. Funny thing here is, had DW take it to a dealer near her workplace and they said they couldn't fix it because they wouldn't get paid for it due to another dealer already having diagnosed it. Some warranty thing.

here is some of what I found. I closed the pages, so some simple searches will probably yield the same results

https://www.classaction.org/ford-diesel-fuel-pump-problem-lawsuits

https://www.claimspages.com/news/2018/11/28/classaction-lawsuit-proposed-against-ford-motor-company-for-6.7l-cp4-fuel-pump-failures/

https://www.littlepowershop.com/ford-6-7-powerstroke-diesel-common-issues-problems-and-fixes/

google powerstrokenation.com and look through the blogs. there is a TON of info on failures there. that page has a lot of pop-up ads so I have going there for long.

ACZL wrote:
Ford I believe had Nox sensor issues thus extended warranty for years '11-'14 (I could be wrong). My '15 F350 was problem free when I traded it w/ 30K miles. My '17 F350 DRW also had the block heater cord replaced along w/ the DEF heater. Now I have a Nox sensor issue which Ford is trying to deny it's bad because their data says "That use of aftermarket fuel treatment can cause problems". It's been back to dealer 2x w/ same problem, going back for 3rd time tmrw. Funny thing here is, had DW take it to a dealer near her workplace and they said they couldn't fix it because they wouldn't get paid for it due to another dealer already having diagnosed it. Some warranty thing.

Dealers will try anything to get out of warranty work and will also makeup “problems” that you can’t live without fixing.
How they’d know whatever fuel treatment you used is either because they did some sort of fuel sampling and analysis and have data to back it up ( not likely at all). Or the service guy/mgr picked up on unnecessary info you provided and is attempting to use it against you to make some money off of you and your truck (far more likely).
Lesson learned, not just with vehicles, but one has to watch how much “info” they divulge.