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- Sport45Explorer II
Me Again wrote:
Bird Freak wrote:
Anybody notice how nice and civil this thread was going until the brand bashing kids got started? Are you boys ever going to mature?
You referring to Troy, the chief of brand bashers?
If you go back and look at the 1st page you'll see Troy is actually innocent this time. ;) - DakotaDadExplorer
Bird Freak wrote:
I don't care for the trolls on either side. Adds nothing to a discussion.
I wouldn't argue with that at all. You're right.
But some tolerate the trolling from their own (and I'm not innocent, either) with the excuse that it's a response to the other side trolling. As if that is somehow a logical justification....
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... " - Bird_FreakExplorer II
jtallon wrote:
I don't care for the trolls on either side. Adds nothing to a discussion.
I guess it's also human nature that the trolls that agree with us are always just a little less annoying than the trolls that argue with us, so the "other guys" always seem to be the worst offenders.
..and so the cycle continues.... - DakotaDadExplorerI guess it's also human nature that the trolls that agree with us are always just a little less annoying than the trolls that argue with us, so the "other guys" always seem to be the worst offenders.
..and so the cycle continues.... - Bird_FreakExplorer II
Me Again wrote:
No point in me pointing fingers. look at the thread.:) I'm just trying to make the point that endless brand bashing serves no purpose. Some folks here seem to only post to do so. I guess it makes them superior in their own little minds.Bird Freak wrote:
Anybody notice how nice and civil this thread was going until the brand bashing kids got started? Are you boys ever going to mature?
You referring to Troy, the chief of brand bashers? - 4x4ordExplorer III
Bionic Man wrote:
The sound you just heard was the air being let out of the sails of all the Ford fans who were sure it would come in at 500/1000.
"My cousin's, neighbor's, ex-room-mate's, boyfriend assured me it would likely be 500/1000".
Yep, I was a little disappointed. If the 65 lb ft of torque would have been delivered from 1600 all the way up I would have been satisfied. - 4x4ordExplorer III
transamz9 wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Towing just got easier
Fish, towing should already be easy for you, the TT at 11,000# GVWR, would hardly make my 2001 Ram break a sweat (going uphill)!
What will be entertaining in the next couple years is who with be the first to claim 500/1,000!!!
No, what's going to be entertaining is all these blue bleeders getting new trucks that think everything is about HP are going to be going WOW when they gain 65 lbft of torque and no more HP and can't believe how much better the new truck handles the weight. If Ford puts the extra torque in the right place it will feel like a 100 more HP. :B
Assuming the 65 lb ft of additional torque above the 2016 Powerstroke is at 1600 rpm, it will produce 20 more HP at 1600 rpm and as the engine revs the advantage will become less apparent. - TexasChapsExplorerhp/tq wars are fine.. when are they going to have MPG wars..?
I would favor 25 to 30 mpg than all this power..( towing of course ! ) - Me_AgainExplorer III
rhagfo wrote:
boshog wrote:
I can hear the guys complaining about the torque management already, with more torque comes more management, got to protect the driveline.
Ever watch a semi with a big engine twist from engine torque. The way the HP/Torque wars are going frames on the new rigs will be semi size, or Torque management!
Without torque management the pre 2017 Fords(think new frame) would lift a front wheel off the ground. Chris - rhagfoExplorer III
boshog wrote:
I can hear the guys complaining about the torque management already, with more torque comes more management, got to protect the driveline.
Ever watch a semi with a big engine twist from engine torque. The way the HP/Torque wars are going frames on the new rigs will be semi size, or Torque management!
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