2017 Super Duty is *****

FishOnOne wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Redwoodcamper wrote:
I've had a lot of diesels over the years. A nice 7.3. a decent Duramax. And then I bought a Cummins. After working on them all, putting over 100k miles on each, there is really no comparison. The Cummins is vastly superior to work on in nearly every way. A bunch of posts on here... "My Ford has xx,xxx miles..." My last two Cummins I sold with over 700k combined. Never pulled the head on either. My current 2011 has 276k miles and not a rattle or squeak. I can change the Injectors on the side of the highway in under 3 hrs. In a Duramax or Ford it would take me literally 4-5 times as long. Same with water pump. Same with turbo. Mechanically both v8s are a flat out nightmare to work on. And the Ford 6.7 is the worst. And I would never, ever buy a Ford after how terrible Ford handled the 6.0.
I'm not arguing how each newer truck feels to drive. I've driven some really nice Ford's and Chevy's. If you aren't working on it, and don't mind more expensive repairs, then buy whatever you want.

Very well said. I was a die hard Ford guy for over 20 years until I had my 6.0L and got stung big time with extremely poor resale value. At the city I work at we had about 20 6.0L diesels and all had poor reliability and extremely expensive repairs at less than 60k miles on every one of them. Most of them are gone now; our fleet sent most of them to auction early to save their operating budget which was being depleted by the repairs to them. We have a couple of 6.4L trucks which have been much less than stellar as well and will be gone soon. These trucks have all been replaced by a combination of Ford 6.2L, V-10, and Ram/Cummins which have all been much better. We have a couple of Ford 6.7L trucks that were ordered by a fleet manager just before he retired last year and they are downright scary to look at under the hood of them. Time will tell as to their reliability. Our current fleet manager refuses to order any more Ford 6.7L trucks due to their complexity and potential future repair costs.

I am very happy with my choice to go to Ram/Cummins. I always felt that the Dodge truck was lacking compared to the Ford but that all changed with the 4th generation Rams.

My 05 6.0PSD sold with 170k miles and my current '12 6.7PSD has 114k miles with a combined 284k miles. Those combined miles I had my 6.0PSD in the shop twice (1 for a oil leak and 1 for a clogged EGR valve) which both repairs were covered under warranty. Neither of these trucks have cost me a dime in engine repairs for the combined 284k miles. Never replaced a single injector and never replaced a turbo.

Our 05 dodge cummins with 120k miles had all six injectors replaced, exhaust manifold, and a rear main seal.

You have been very fortunate. But when you have three Ford's with 900k miles, come back at tell me again how many egr coolers, ficms, injectors, you go through. If you had egr, followed by head gasket and injector problems on your Ford, you would have been out $6k plus.