Forum Discussion
- It's about friggin time they made the Expedition look good. It has always been a capable vehicle but from a pure aesthetics point of view...it has severely lagged behind the Surburban & Tahoe
brulaz wrote:
Tvov wrote:
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Does ANY new vehicle with an automatic transmission - no matter if steering wheel column shifter, floor shifter, or whichever - actually have the shifter directly connected to the transmission by a cable or rod?
What about when locking the tranny into park? It sure feels like I'm mechanically putting that parking pawl in place with the 68RFE in the RAM Cummins.
It is still electronically shifted. Everything else is the same when you put it in park. Just no mechanical connection from the trans to shifter.BillyW wrote:
LOL! You gotta catch up with the times!
No, I'm asking legitimate questions. Well aware of the Ecoboost engine's capabilities in cars and the F150, but if not mistaken, aluminum body or not, the Expedition is going to be heavier than an F150 (more body metal and seats). The powertrain, including the transmission is new/relatively new technology and purposed toward fuel economy to keep the Feds happy first, and by extension allowing Ford to keep the vehicles on the market. Long term and for towing, I legitimately wonder how this plays out over time. If these technologies achieve meeting consumer needs and keeping the regulators happy, great for Ford and other manufacturers adopting the technology. I'm not necessarily a disciple of 'no replacement for displacement' but these direct injection turbocharged gas engines over time.....how will they fare?
As for the tires, I just wonder how tires that look like they belong on a pimp daddy boulevard cruiser enhance ride and handling, towing or not. I drove an 'old school' Expedtion as a staff vehicle in the fire service for a number of years. Good, reliable and capable truck.- I know I can shift gears faster with the knob than with any other type of shifter I've ever dealt with. It responds lightening fast. It's very easy to rock the truck out of an icy ditch because it responds so quickly. It's very easy to get used to. Non-issue. I agree about the parking pawl. At least I can hear it click into place.
thomasmnile wrote:
LOL! You gotta catch up with the times! the 3.5 Ecoboost is Ford's most powerful gas engine in the half ton and below categories, and holds its own very well against the v8 competition. My truck sits on 20" OEM rims which didn't affect its tow rating at all, nor does it negatively affect towing. I guess too low profile could be trouble waiting to happen. The 10 speed tranny is just that, a 10 speed, no CVT.
From the Detroit Free Press
I read the FREEP column. Looks like Ford is swinging for the fences here. But I wonder, is the 3.5L Ecoboost enough engine in this application for towing? The low profile tires (20" or 22" on the Platinum Edition, doesn't that affect towing? Are these multi-speed trannys CVT or what? Exterior kinda pedestrian, but how much styling can you do with a shoebox? Interior is certainly nice and can be ordered chock full of gee whiz gadgets. Last quesition: How much $$$$$$? Tvov wrote:
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Does ANY new vehicle with an automatic transmission - no matter if steering wheel column shifter, floor shifter, or whichever - actually have the shifter directly connected to the transmission by a cable or rod?
What about when locking the tranny into park? It sure feels like I'm mechanically putting that parking pawl in place with the 68RFE in the RAM Cummins.- I'm not a fan of the knob either. If you have a low voltage situation, can you even get the tranny out of park, say if you needed to push it out of a parking spot to give it a jump start? The rest of it sounds pretty good, I know that ecoboost is incredible. I still think Ford should bring back the Excursion for big families that like to pull a camper.
- So, is the dial knob "shifter" the way of the future? A friend bought a Ram truck last year and it has the dial knob shifter.
Just weird to me... I don't think it will change how the transmission works, as almost all vehicles have had cable-less "computer shifting" for years now. Does ANY new vehicle with an automatic transmission - no matter if steering wheel column shifter, floor shifter, or whichever - actually have the shifter directly connected to the transmission by a cable or rod? jfkmk wrote:
Hate the dial knob!
I don't like it either, I'd rather see the old push button gear selector than a twist knob.
But, in the future, probably everything will be a knob if it's cheaper.- id love one for half of what they will charge
thomasmnile wrote:
From the Detroit Free Press
I read the FREEP column. Looks like Ford is swinging for the fences here. But I wonder, is the 3.5L Ecoboost enough engine in this application for towing? The low profile tires (20" or 22" on the Platinum Edition, doesn't that affect towing? Are these multi-speed trannys CVT or what? Exterior kinda pedestrian, but how much styling can you do with a shoebox? Interior is certainly nice and can be ordered chock full of gee whiz gadgets. Last quesition: How much $$$$$$?
Go to the "2017 F150 and Titan Ike Gauntlet" thread and check out the video of the 2017 Eco Boost pull. That engine never broke a sweat pulling that load with the new 10 speed tranny.
