2018 Titan vs Ford F150 XD

RobertRyan wrote:

carringb wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

Maybe. Ford says the Pickup passes the J2807 standard for towing that weight,Going By the results either the standard is not representative or Ford is making a bad call on it's compliance.
Having to brake 9 times compared to twice on the Titan XD on a fairly moderate gradient and feeling you had little control, suggests something is pretty wrong.

It towed it, didn't it? J2807 has no requirements for engine braking. They did not overheat their brakes or lose any braking performance, so I'd say it worked as intended. I'm not saying engine braking only isn't nice, but it certainly isn't necessary, especially for somebody who buys a truck for only occasional towing.

Just 12 years ago, a stock Cummins diesel would have required the service brakes even more.

Fellows who did it felt it was out of control. Luckily it was on a modest gradiant

I watched the video test a couple of days ago. My impression was that the testers didn't say or imply that the the Ford ".. was out of control..." as you have indicated. My view was that they felt that the Nissan exhibited more stability in it's ability to control the trailer movement...as compared to the F 150.

Using the phrase 'out of control' paints a picture of a vehicle that is completely unstable .