2021 Ford Bronco

Huntindog wrote:
Over the years there has been constant bashing of GMs decision long ago to retire their SFAs..... Now that Ford is leaning in this direction, a lot of the same people think it is the greatest thing since sliced bread...... OK boys, welcome to the 21st century.

As far back as the 1980s Ford F250, 150, and Ranger all had IFS. A different type of design but still a IFS. In 1999 when the Super Duty line came out Ford went to a SFA on the F250.

Ford Bronco was designed and developed in Australia, but will not be sold here. Also the same development Centre is doing the new Ford Ranger and VW Amarok
Ford Bronco development in Australia

This is despite the fact that the new Bronco project was largely engineered in Melbourne, since it is a derivative of the T6 Ranger project that has its homeroom base in Australia, using the basic chassis components of a truck that is obviously available in right-hand drive.

Here's a picture of the Bronco Raptor vs a Bronco Sasquatch. We don't need this much off road capability but the Raptor sure looks aggressive and looks like it riding on 37's.

....anyone ever see a Brenthel Industries IFS doing the Baja at 70 MPH flying 8 feet above the desert rock? Just throw one of those super long travel front ends on a Bronco, and Bob's your uncle LOL

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....anyone know if a good flat tow option is out there yet for a Bronco?

Grit dog wrote:
The new Broncos are certainly bad @ss. Now if Ford can price point them to not be so ridiculously priced like the Wrangler Rubis and Gladiators they will mop up the competition!

.....we looked at "them" recently. If you think they are expensive in the US, wait till you see the Canadian price: for the base 4-door Black Diamond: $52,094 CAD! Exact same model in the US $40,685 USD ($50,470 CAD).

Grit dog wrote:



Who effin cares....
PS, little obsessive if your searching someone's old posts just to prove some point that noone cares aboot....

Okay? Although, when I generally don't care about something I typically don't even bother to read or respond to it.

Also, I don't back down from any debate, argument, or fight if I feel that I am correct about my opinion or a fact. It is jut not my nature, and I understand that not everyone is the same so I generally try not to chastise them for it and let them be.

I don't feel that I was wrong in stating that an IFS is not ideal for my kind of off roading and I will keep defending that opinion as long as those like Fish try to keep telling me I am wrong on what I think is best for "my" off roading. If roles were reversed and the Wrangler had the IFS and the Bronco had solid axles, then I would say that the Bronco was the better for the two for my kind of off roading.

FishOnOne wrote:


A lot of comparisons you're wrapping up here. IFS in a half ton performs different from a IFS in a HD truck and reliability is different as well. A IFS in a HD performs different if a gas engine or diesel engine is setting above it. A IFS in a HD performs different if its a two wheel drive vs a four wheel drive. When I made comments on a Solid axle truck it was a coil sprung suspension and not a leaf spring suspension which are worlds apart for ride quality. Brand has nothing to do with my comments.

This is not what your past comments said when I Googled everything you stated about IFS on this and other forums like the Ford Truck Enthusiast forum...... Unless someone else is using your unique name and has the same 2012 like yours.

Grit dog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


The IFS on a GM HD truck has very little travel until it hits a jounce bumper and the torsion bar spring is not as good as a coil spring. Not a good design to absorb high impact shock.

BTW... No one is arguing with you but more like disagreeing with you.

Bottom line the Jeep has it's place in the off road world and now the same goes with the new Bronco.

I disagree with people all the time, but I don't comment or quote them. The second I do, then it becomes and argument or debate. There is a difference.

In regards to the GM IFS. I Googled multiple posts of yours talking about your parents GM IFS. In some you say it is better than a solid axle and in others you say it is no difference that your solid axle truck. You even mentioned in some that they are not reliable as a solid axle. So I guess it depends on the brand the IFS is attached to on which is better?

Who effin cares....
PS, little obsessive if your searching someone's old posts just to prove some point that noone cares aboot....

If we keep this up either Ryan from down under will get involved or we'll be investigated by the FBI as Rv.net terrorist
:B

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


The IFS on a GM HD truck has very little travel until it hits a jounce bumper and the torsion bar spring is not as good as a coil spring. Not a good design to absorb high impact shock.

BTW... No one is arguing with you but more like disagreeing with you.

Bottom line the Jeep has it's place in the off road world and now the same goes with the new Bronco.

I disagree with people all the time, but I don't comment or quote them. The second I do, then it becomes and argument or debate. There is a difference.

In regards to the GM IFS. I Googled multiple posts of yours talking about your parents GM IFS. In some you say it is better than a solid axle and in others you say it is no difference that your solid axle truck. You even mentioned in some that they are not reliable as a solid axle. So I guess it depends on the brand the IFS is attached to on which is better?

A lot of comparisons you're wrapping up here. IFS in a half ton performs different from a IFS in a HD truck and reliability is different as well. A IFS in a HD performs different if a gas engine or diesel engine is setting above it. A IFS in a HD performs different if its a two wheel drive vs a four wheel drive. When I made comments on a Solid axle truck it was a coil sprung suspension and not a leaf spring suspension which are worlds apart for ride quality. Brand has nothing to do with my comments.