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- Helped my old man install new injectors and sleeves on his 2003 7.3L today. And by help I mean I did 95% of the work. Man, the stuff I had to remove just to get to the valve covers. There was hardly any room on either side of the engine and the back two injectors were a pain in the arse getting the sleeves out. I can see why taking the cab off is standard practice on major repairs.
To be fair though, the back two injectors on the Cummins is a pain as well, however, I don't have to take a bunch of stuff off just to get the valve covers. It would suck if we messed up and had to take all that stuff back off again since we have to put it all back on just to turn it over to verify the job was done correctly. Luckily we(I) got his 7.3l back on the road without a hitch. blofgren wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
^^^^ It comes down to risk. Any one of these trucks can have serious problems but I would say the likelyhood of any of them requiring major engine repair before 200k miles is slim. Those who are comfortable with those odds can choose amongst the three manufacturers based on whatever criteria suits their fancy. Those paranoid that sometime over the next 10 years they might have to pay 3 extra hours of labor to R&R the cab if they buy a Ford end up having to select from two manufacturers. Finally someone who feels he needs room between the fender and block to store his football is left with only one to choose.
Aw, come on, you're envious because you can't store your football under the hood and it is a pain rolling around in the cab. :B
I think it would be quite a bit more than 3 hours labour to R&R the cab. And it also requires taking the truck to a shop that is equipped to do so, whereas you can wrench on the Cummins at home with no problem. And the last time the cab was off of my Ford, I had to take it back to have it repositioned because it was installed too far forward which left a big, ugly gap between the cab and box. Overall, it was a real PITA.
There are shops that say they can lift the cab in an hour and a half.... probably they've had lot's of experience doing 6.4s. I would be cheesed off if I had a truck off warranty that needed its cab taken off for something that should have been a minor repair as well, however, the reality is that very few 6.7 owners ever experience that kind of trouble.... The Ram salesman contacted me yesterday and hasn't given up trying to win my business .... I guess you never know maybe I will be able to keep my balls under the hood after all.blofgren wrote:
I prefill mine and install it from the top with no problems.
OMG!!!4x4ord wrote:
^^^^ It comes down to risk. Any one of these trucks can have serious problems but I would say the likelyhood of any of them requiring major engine repair before 200k miles is slim. Those who are comfortable with those odds can choose amongst the three manufacturers based on whatever criteria suits their fancy. Those paranoid that sometime over the next 10 years they might have to pay 3 extra hours of labor to R&R the cab if they buy a Ford end up having to select from two manufacturers. Finally someone who feels he needs room between the fender and block to store his football is left with only one to choose.
Aw, come on, you're envious because you can't store your football under the hood and it is a pain rolling around in the cab. :B
I think it would be quite a bit more than 3 hours labour to R&R the cab. And it also requires taking the truck to a shop that is equipped to do so, whereas you can wrench on the Cummins at home with no problem. And the last time the cab was off of my Ford, I had to take it back to have it repositioned because it was installed too far forward which left a big, ugly gap between the cab and box. Overall, it was a real PITA.- I prefill mine and install it from the top with no problems.
- "I have not pre-filled the filter on the couple of times I changed the oil but could use this plug to pre-fill and get it into place without a mess too."
Next time PLEASE attempt to unscrew the cap once the filter is dropped thru the hole. Then try to lift the filter into place and screw it on without spilling.
I am saying put one quart into the filter.
Report back.
The from the top method is free, simple and not a drop will be spilled. Grit dog wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Do you pre fill your filter?
He!! no!
Good way to make a mess. Nother old wives tale.
Didn't ask you. ;) But the fact is Cummins recommends that be done.Flashman wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
blofgren wrote:
That is about the only advantage the Powerstroke has over the Cummins from a service/repair perspective. Now that I've changed the oil in my truck a few times, I'm actually pretty quick at changing the oil filter from the top with no mess.
I'll take that over removing the cab to do just about everything else (the cab was off my 6.0L PSD twice). ;)
Yeah, for something that I only have to do once a year or every 15k(versus 10k), it is not a big deal. I just use some plastic shrink wrap to cover the filter as I take it out from the fender well to keep it from spilling. Works like a charm.
I have a screw on plug from amazon that helps the oil filter through the fender well easy. After the 1st time I find changing the oil on my Ram a breeze.
I use this as well and makes changing the oil easy peasy. I have not pre-filled the filter on the couple of times I changed the oil but could use this plug to pre-fill and get it into place without a mess too.Cummins12V98 wrote:
Do you pre fill your filter?
He!! no!
Good way to make a mess. Nother old wives tale.Cummins12V98 wrote:
FISH how bout posting a pic looking into your engine compartment.
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