Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
Don't forget to add the various ways any 2008+ diesel can dump enormous bills in your lap with no warning. Say, an exhaust filter (sell your first-born), an injection pump ($1500+), new injectors ($2000+), perhaps a turbocharger ($4000+ even if it doesn't blow up anything else).
Waaaaaaa....stop buying Fords...lol!
mlh wrote:
Does anyone else notice how every time the discussion gets into vehicle comparisons or capabilities, three people on the rv.net forum are always right and are condescending to everyone who doesn't agree? Its getting old.
valhalla360 wrote:ShinerBock wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
What deafening noise? Maybe if your exhaust is rusted out.
Our V10 is smooth and quiet. You can hear the change in pitch when you get up to 3000rpm but nothing deafening.
Talk of 5500rpm is just trying to sooth his ego to justify why he paid so much more for a diesel.
Again, you have to figure that you only tow a 7,500 lb trailer with a V10 which any half ton on the market can do(even the 3.0L diesels). One can say pulling such a small load with a V10 that is rated to tow 15k is soothing an ego just to justify a gaser. Start pulling closer to that V10's max ratings up hills at higher speeds than 60 mph(if you can even get there) and you will know what 5,500 rpm sounds like.
Again, this in the range of size the OP is talking about. He is not talking about towing a 15k trailer.
Grit dog wrote:
Oh well, shoot , if I knew you could get your oil changed for less than $30 ida bought a gasser.....hey, check your calendar, it’s not 1985 any more...
Some of you guys are so full of ____. You can’t even buy the oil and filter for les than $30.....
Why is this place like who can make up the biggest story?
ShinerBock wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
What deafening noise? Maybe if your exhaust is rusted out.
Our V10 is smooth and quiet. You can hear the change in pitch when you get up to 3000rpm but nothing deafening.
Talk of 5500rpm is just trying to sooth his ego to justify why he paid so much more for a diesel.
Again, you have to figure that you only tow a 7,500 lb trailer with a V10 which any half ton on the market can do(even the 3.0L diesels). One can say pulling such a small load with a V10 that is rated to tow 15k is soothing an ego just to justify a gaser. Start pulling closer to that V10's max ratings up hills at higher speeds than 60 mph(if you can even get there) and you will know what 5,500 rpm sounds like.
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
No value troll post.
Fair assessment, if you can show where you post really anything other than incessant bitsching about diesels!
Pot met kettle!
Cheers man!
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
Yes: the potential repair bills have gotten MUCH larger! For the cost of a bad HPFP, a failed exhaust filter, or a bad turbocharger on a diesel, you can put a rebuilt engine in a gas truck.
While you're correct, the diesel component repairs you mention are more expensive or even something that wouldn't be encountered with a gas rig, it's a gross exaggeration to even compare the cost of replacing any one or even 2 of those components apples to apples with the cost of say replacing an entire engine in a modern HD pickup.
I could pay 3x as much for a part at the dealer and 2x as much for dealer labor to replace and compare it to pulling my own LS motor and getting it freshened up and re-installing myself, but apples to apples you're way off base.
Question is what do you want or need or prefer?
I can ride a bicycle even cheaper than a Ford V10...
Grit dog wrote:
Good thing I have a Cummings then!
But I did sell our 07 last fall with 180k miles more than I bought it with in 2008 for $4k less than I paid for it in 2008....true story.
MFL wrote:
^^^^While I am always right, I can't be one of the three bad apples, as I'm not condescending to the people that are wrong. I even allow them to think they are right! :)
Jerry
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
Don't forget to add the various ways any 2008+ diesel can dump enormous bills in your lap with no warning. Say, an exhaust filter (sell your first-born), an injection pump ($1500+), new injectors ($2000+), perhaps a turbocharger ($4000+ even if it doesn't blow up anything else).
Waaaaaaa....stop buying Fords...lol!
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
Don't forget to add the various ways any 2008+ diesel can dump enormous bills in your lap with no warning. Say, an exhaust filter (sell your first-born), an injection pump ($1500+), new injectors ($2000+), perhaps a turbocharger ($4000+ even if it doesn't blow up anything else).
Waaaaaaa....stop buying Fords...lol!
mlh wrote:
Does anyone else notice how every time the discussion gets into vehicle comparisons or capabilities, three people on the rv.net forum are always right and are condescending to everyone who doesn't agree? Its getting old.
mlh wrote:
Does anyone else notice how every time the discussion gets into vehicle comparisons or capabilities, three people on the rv.net forum are always right and are condescending to everyone who doesn't agree? Its getting old.
valhalla360 wrote:ShinerBock wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
What deafening noise? Maybe if your exhaust is rusted out.
Our V10 is smooth and quiet. You can hear the change in pitch when you get up to 3000rpm but nothing deafening.
Talk of 5500rpm is just trying to sooth his ego to justify why he paid so much more for a diesel.
Again, you have to figure that you only tow a 7,500 lb trailer with a V10 which any half ton on the market can do(even the 3.0L diesels). One can say pulling such a small load with a V10 that is rated to tow 15k is soothing an ego just to justify a gaser. Start pulling closer to that V10's max ratings up hills at higher speeds than 60 mph(if you can even get there) and you will know what 5,500 rpm sounds like.
Again, this in the range of size the OP is talking about. He is not talking about towing a 15k trailer.
valhalla360 wrote:ShinerBock wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
What deafening noise? Maybe if your exhaust is rusted out.
Our V10 is smooth and quiet. You can hear the change in pitch when you get up to 3000rpm but nothing deafening.
Talk of 5500rpm is just trying to sooth his ego to justify why he paid so much more for a diesel.
Again, you have to figure that you only tow a 7,500 lb trailer with a V10 which any half ton on the market can do(even the 3.0L diesels). One can say pulling such a small load with a V10 that is rated to tow 15k is soothing an ego just to justify a gaser. Start pulling closer to that V10's max ratings up hills at higher speeds than 60 mph(if you can even get there) and you will know what 5,500 rpm sounds like.
Again, this in the range of size the OP is talking about. He is not talking about towing a 15k trailer.
Grit dog wrote:
Oh well, shoot , if I knew you could get your oil changed for less than $30 ida bought a gasser.....hey, check your calendar, it’s not 1985 any more...
Some of you guys are so full of ____. You can’t even buy the oil and filter for les than $30.....
Why is this place like who can make up the biggest story?
Grit dog wrote:
Oh well, shoot , if I knew you could get your oil changed for less than $30 ida bought a gasser.....hey, check your calendar, it’s not 1985 any more...
Some of you guys are so full of ____. You can’t even buy the oil and filter for les than $30.....
Why is this place like who can make up the biggest story?
ShinerBock wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
What deafening noise? Maybe if your exhaust is rusted out.
Our V10 is smooth and quiet. You can hear the change in pitch when you get up to 3000rpm but nothing deafening.
Talk of 5500rpm is just trying to sooth his ego to justify why he paid so much more for a diesel.
Again, you have to figure that you only tow a 7,500 lb trailer with a V10 which any half ton on the market can do(even the 3.0L diesels). One can say pulling such a small load with a V10 that is rated to tow 15k is soothing an ego just to justify a gaser. Start pulling closer to that V10's max ratings up hills at higher speeds than 60 mph(if you can even get there) and you will know what 5,500 rpm sounds like.
ShinerBock wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
What deafening noise? Maybe if your exhaust is rusted out.
Our V10 is smooth and quiet. You can hear the change in pitch when you get up to 3000rpm but nothing deafening.
Talk of 5500rpm is just trying to sooth his ego to justify why he paid so much more for a diesel.
Again, you have to figure that you only tow a 7,500 lb trailer with a V10 which any half ton on the market can do(even the 3.0L diesels). One can say pulling such a small load with a V10 that is rated to tow 15k is soothing an ego just to justify a gaser. Start pulling closer to that V10's max ratings up hills at higher speeds than 60 mph(if you can even get there) and you will know what 5,500 rpm sounds like.
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
No value troll post.
Fair assessment, if you can show where you post really anything other than incessant bitsching about diesels!
Pot met kettle!
Cheers man!
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
No value troll post.
Fair assessment, if you can show where you post really anything other than incessant bitsching about diesels!
Pot met kettle!
Cheers man!
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
Yes: the potential repair bills have gotten MUCH larger! For the cost of a bad HPFP, a failed exhaust filter, or a bad turbocharger on a diesel, you can put a rebuilt engine in a gas truck.
While you're correct, the diesel component repairs you mention are more expensive or even something that wouldn't be encountered with a gas rig, it's a gross exaggeration to even compare the cost of replacing any one or even 2 of those components apples to apples with the cost of say replacing an entire engine in a modern HD pickup.
I could pay 3x as much for a part at the dealer and 2x as much for dealer labor to replace and compare it to pulling my own LS motor and getting it freshened up and re-installing myself, but apples to apples you're way off base.
Question is what do you want or need or prefer?
I can ride a bicycle even cheaper than a Ford V10...
Grit dog wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
Yes: the potential repair bills have gotten MUCH larger! For the cost of a bad HPFP, a failed exhaust filter, or a bad turbocharger on a diesel, you can put a rebuilt engine in a gas truck.
While you're correct, the diesel component repairs you mention are more expensive or even something that wouldn't be encountered with a gas rig, it's a gross exaggeration to even compare the cost of replacing any one or even 2 of those components apples to apples with the cost of say replacing an entire engine in a modern HD pickup.
I could pay 3x as much for a part at the dealer and 2x as much for dealer labor to replace and compare it to pulling my own LS motor and getting it freshened up and re-installing myself, but apples to apples you're way off base.
Question is what do you want or need or prefer?
I can ride a bicycle even cheaper than a Ford V10...
Grit dog wrote:
Good thing I have a Cummings then!
But I did sell our 07 last fall with 180k miles more than I bought it with in 2008 for $4k less than I paid for it in 2008....true story.
Grit dog wrote:
Good thing I have a Cummings then!
But I did sell our 07 last fall with 180k miles more than I bought it with in 2008 for $4k less than I paid for it in 2008....true story.
MFL wrote:
^^^^While I am always right, I can't be one of the three bad apples, as I'm not condescending to the people that are wrong. I even allow them to think they are right! :)
Jerry
MFL wrote:
^^^^While I am always right, I can't be one of the three bad apples, as I'm not condescending to the people that are wrong. I even allow them to think they are right! :)
Jerry
