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NC Hauler wrote:
Really am not THAT interested in the difference to look it up, but have enough information to form my own accurate opinion whether you think so or not.....I merely based my opinion on what was given to me by Ford posters and the parts lists....SOOOO IF they ARE IDENTICAL, both the F250 and F350 SRW, as stated, I would purchase the F250, it would cost less and Ford can't rip me off by selling me an F350 SRW that is actually an F250 in every aspect...GVWR, RAWR, FAWR and GCWR...as you stated the trucks ARE IDENTICAL....seems like a rip off..Now if "some" F350' SRW trucks ARE different than F250's, ie higher GVWR, RAWR, FAWR and GCWR, some have contradicted themselves by stating F250's are identical to F350 SRW trucks, pretty inclusive...leaving no room for exceptions.
It's not a "rip off." It is building one truck to fill two market segments. If Ford dropped the 250 and only built the SRW 350 (because they are identical) then the uninformed who think they only need a 250 and that it rides better, would shop another brand. It's just good business to make both because most buyers are like you and it's not important enough for them to take the time to verify that they are the same. Hell, most don't even know how to do said research and and ignorantly blissful.
And no, not some SRW 350's are different than the 250's. If ordered with the same options they have the same parts every time. Yes, it's all inclusive.
The 250 is de-rated on paper and it's sticker. It uses the identical axles and yet they are rated at 900# less. It uses the same everything else and the GWVR is 1500# less. The ratings are de-rated on a 250 just like when you buy a SRW 350 in CA and order the 10k de-rate package. The truck is the same as any other SRW 350 and yet on paper the GVWR is less to save reg and insurance fees.
Bottom line is ratings, at least with Ford, are not always based on engineering but rather marketing of a product. Just like how the F450 is de-rated to keep it from jumping a class...
No, most buyers ARE NOT like me, I've been on this forum 10 years now and been towing for 40....I research my trucks quite extensively that I tow with and match them to what I'm going to tow...I've been called one of the "weight police" in here for years because I'm one of those that believed you should stay not only under your rear axle rating but also stay within your trucks GVWR...I know quite a bit about these trucks and their capabilities...I said I wasn't interested in looking up info on a 3/4 ton truck or a 1 ton SRW truck because I have more than enough truck to be able to tow just about what ever I want with the truck I own now. With a GVWR of 14,000#, even with 5er loaded to 16,300# and pin weight of 3460#, I'm STILL 1200# under my trucks GVWR and well under my trucks rear axle weight rating of 9750, (AAM rates it at min of 11,500# , it's the 11.8 axle)...I also preached keeping truck under it's GCWR...mine with the 4.10 is 37,500#, I'm under 26,000# now....
so I really have no incentive to look at a 250/2500 or a 350/3500 SRW truck...I got what I need. If I were to "down size"...I'd probably go with a 3500 SRW truck and see which of the big three has the best towing specs, ie, GVWR, RAWR, FAWR and GCWR and go from there.
AND...I know far more about weights and capacities than you give me credit for...I merely stated it was odd that Ford badges two trucks that are exactly the same, differently...sorta like GM//Chevy manufacturing the same truck under two different names..and no, I'm not trashing Chevy...I owned Chevy trucks from 75' through 2010'...last 4 were D/A's...loved them, great trucks...just think it's silly they don't build a GMC Chevrolet ( one truck)...but I'm not real smart...so Ford can keep on making identical 250's and badge one as a 250 and one as a 350 SRW ....I'd go with the cheaper truck since they're identical...plain ole common sense...
I'm one of those when I see what you're towing with your 350 SRW truck, I'd say you're over some of your limits...but I forget that a f350 is the same as an F350 Dually, (minus the training wheels:))