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- Devo_the_dogExplorerI'd put on a supercharger instead. Even though there is a parasitic loss, I'd prefer it over a turbo.
- kellemExplorerA Google search brings up 1 source so until more info is available, I'd call it rumor.
Why limit the duties a Superduty can perform ? - wing_zealotExplorer
Bionic Man wrote:
GDS-3950BH wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Speaking from first hand experience, with as poor of MPG as the EcoBoost gets towing, I can't imagine how bad this engine would suck fuel under load.
I would agree, likely can watch the fuel gauge move.
Was not much of an issue until the full out, no holds barred assault on the oil and gas industry. Bend over and grab em. We can't have folks wasting all this energy pulling around these RVs or anything else, it's the Green new deal. Just move to some inner city condo and shut up, we'll hand you everything you need, enjoy it.
When you can barely make 200 miles with a 30 gallon tank, MPG is an issue regardless of the price per gallon.
Which "poor" MPG are you referring to?
The 20+ MPG Highway?
The 15 MPG City?
The 10.5 MPG Towing?
Do any of you have an Ecoboost? - notevenExplorer III
4x4ord wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
A large displacement turbocharged gas engine would need a HUGE cooling system to keep it cool in a towing application. Especially one that has a closed deck block like the 7.3L. The radiator would probably need to be the size of a medium-duty Peterbilt.
I'm sure 4x will be by shortly to refute it with some home-made bsfc to kilojoules of heat loss chart....LOL
I agree with 12V it’s gotta be a deezul if it’s going to tow. Maybe we gotta shrink the cooling system. 60% of our fuel’s energy is lost to heat either out the exhaust or into the cooling system. What if we could run some sort of super hot highly pressurized coolant through a nozzle that would spin a turbine coupled to a generator that could recapture that energy and feed it to electric motors at the wheels?
Cummins had an engine running on a dyno in their skunk works 30+ years ago testing some different materials concepts. It was complete with no "radiator waste" cooling system. Ceramic pistons, 2 or 3 staged turbochargers....I believe it had a condensing steam turbine system geared to the crankshaft. - GrooverExplorer II
ShinerBock wrote:
A large displacement turbocharged gas engine would need a HUGE cooling system to keep it cool in a towing application. Especially one that has a closed deck block like the 7.3L. The radiator would probably need to be the size of a medium-duty Peterbilt.
Every time that I have seen trucks with similar power diesel and gas engines offered the diesel has the larger radiator. I have done a lot of towing with gas engines over the past 45 years and never had heat issues with one that was factory equipped for the job. The high hood on the current GM pickups seem to be driven by the cooling needs of the diesel, not the gas engine.
I think that the cooling needs of the gas engine could be managed without much of an issue and I suspect that most of the historical issues with gas engines overheating was due to people trying to go with a cheap substitute for a diesel rather than a good one. - Bionic_ManExplorer
GDS-3950BH wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Speaking from first hand experience, with as poor of MPG as the EcoBoost gets towing, I can't imagine how bad this engine would suck fuel under load.
I would agree, likely can watch the fuel gauge move.
Was not much of an issue until the full out, no holds barred assault on the oil and gas industry. Bend over and grab em. We can't have folks wasting all this energy pulling around these RVs or anything else, it's the Green new deal. Just move to some inner city condo and shut up, we'll hand you everything you need, enjoy it.
When you can barely make 200 miles with a 30 gallon tank, MPG is an issue regardless of the price per gallon. - GDS-3950BHExplorer
noteven wrote:
V10 EcoBoost 600HP!....
V8 EcoBoost .... !
1991 Honda Civic 4 banger, 790 HP. Entire engine weighs less than 3 pistons in the Ford 7.3 lol. - notevenExplorer IIIV10 EcoBoost 600HP!....
V8 EcoBoost .... ! - GDS-3950BHExplorer
rhagfo wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Speaking from first hand experience, with as poor of MPG as the EcoBoost gets towing, I can't imagine how bad this engine would suck fuel under load.
I would agree, likely can watch the fuel gauge move.
Was not much of an issue until the full out, no holds barred assault on the oil and gas industry. Bend over and grab em. We can't have folks wasting all this energy pulling around these RVs or anything else, it's the Green new deal. Just move to some inner city condo and shut up, we'll hand you everything you need, enjoy it. - rhagfoExplorer III
Bionic Man wrote:
Speaking from first hand experience, with as poor of MPG as the EcoBoost gets towing, I can't imagine how bad this engine would suck fuel under load.
I would agree, likely can watch the fuel gauge move.
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