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pbohart
Explorer
Aug 27, 2013

A tale of two warranties

First off - I am only relaying a single story, not attempting to draw sweeping conclusions about this company vs. that one...

But...

A co-worker and I both purchased similar Travel Trailers from two differnt companies. Mine from Jayco, him from Keystone (Laredo).

We both have the same floor plan.

I have had a series of problems with mine that Jayco has bent over backward to fix.
* Front cap was badly rock chipped when I took possession. Jayco filled the holes, repainted, and reapplied decals.
* My rain gutters were not level causing water to spill out of the low spots - Jayco fixed
* The big one, however, was that I found several spots of minor delam (3-4 one inch by 2 inch spots with minor bubbling). Jayco fixed the damaged fiberglass, is replacing the back wall, and has done a pressure test and seam fix all the way around to ensure it was bad glue and NOT water that caused the delam. They mentioned that sealant is only covered for 90 days, but fixed it anyway.
* Bunch of other minor fixes here and there.

On the Laredo:
* When he picked up the unit he noticed the fiberglass had a baseball size spiderweb damage in the front end-cap. Keystone is now saying that since it happened after it left the Keystone factory and was not on dealer acceptance report, that they are not going to cover it.
* His grey tank handle fell off during travel. Not covered as it is 'wear and tear'
* His spare tire cover was inappropriately fastened and blew off the first time he drove it. Not covered.

Again...not trying to bash Keystone. For over story like this I am sure there are many where Keystone went above and beyond to repair something under warranty...but hearing his woes (and hearing him on the phone with Campingworld - where we both bought our trailers) I am glad I went with the Jayco.

The service manager at CW has told me on more than one of the repairs I have requested "If it weren't Jayco, I wouldnt even bother asking"

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  • ktmrfs wrote:
    IMHO the BIGGEST impact on warranty claims is the DEALER. If they stand by you chances are stuff gets fixed. If they have a "don't care" attitude, good luck.

    as an example, on our trailer a few days before the 1 year warranty expired I noticed the alloy wheels had some small white spots on them under the clear coat. On a lark, I drove to the dealer and asked them if there was any chance they would be covered under warranty. Dealer took a look, saw all 4 wheels had the same problem, said, haven't seen this before, took pictures and said we'll see what we can do. I really wasn't expecting much. A week late I got a call from the dealer, your new wheels are here, covered under warranty bring it in and we will swap them out and also have the tires balanced since you had them balanced.

    Now that IMHO is a good dealer. BTW the trailer is a Keystone outback, but experience with others who use the same dealer is that any trailer they sell they really try to stand up to the warranty.

    there are other dealers nearby that also sell keystone brands (along with other brands) and I've heard horror stories about warranty and other work from customers.

    The dealers attitude CAN make a big difference in warranty claims or other work. to bad some really don't care that much about customer satisfaction.

    I'm sure some mfg are way easier to work with than others, but the dealers should to learn how to deal with it and support the customers.

    BTW I've found the same attitude with car dealers. Back in the early 90's I had a van with the famous paint peeling problem. First dealer came out looked at it and said, naw, normal, no warranty.

    Next dealer took a quick look, said, all the symptoms of bad prep, it will get a full paint job under warranty, including redoing all the custom hand painted pinstriping. Will take us about 2 weeks to do. 15 years later when i sold the van, paint still looked like new.


    This is correct and well said
  • My guess would be that bending over backwards to help the consumer is more closely tied to the fact that Jayco is a privatly held company. When the person/family that started and grew the business still runs it, Jayco, KZ to name a couple, the businesses reputation means a lot more. Just a thought.
  • Seems that your buddy has the better rig though, I can't see how a lost tire cover or drain handle would ever be a warranty issue. Neither of those compare to delam and warped roof lines... just sayin.

    My parents recently purchased a Keystone product from Camping World and have had warranty and customer service that has impressed even me. CW (Sacramento) has gone out of their way for them.
  • ktmrfs's avatar
    ktmrfs
    Explorer III
    IMHO the BIGGEST impact on warranty claims is the DEALER. If they stand by you chances are stuff gets fixed. If they have a "don't care" attitude, good luck.

    as an example, on our trailer a few days before the 1 year warranty expired I noticed the alloy wheels had some small white spots on them under the clear coat. On a lark, I drove to the dealer and asked them if there was any chance they would be covered under warranty. Dealer took a look, saw all 4 wheels had the same problem, said, haven't seen this before, took pictures and said we'll see what we can do. I really wasn't expecting much. A week late I got a call from the dealer, your new wheels are here, covered under warranty bring it in and we will swap them out and also have the tires balanced since you had them balanced.

    Now that IMHO is a good dealer. BTW the trailer is a Keystone outback, but experience with others who use the same dealer is that any trailer they sell they really try to stand up to the warranty.

    there are other dealers nearby that also sell keystone brands (along with other brands) and I've heard horror stories about warranty and other work from customers.

    The dealers attitude CAN make a big difference in warranty claims or other work. to bad some really don't care that much about customer satisfaction.

    I'm sure some mfg are way easier to work with than others, but the dealers should to learn how to deal with it and support the customers.

    BTW I've found the same attitude with car dealers. Back in the early 90's I had a van with the famous paint peeling problem. First dealer came out looked at it and said, naw, normal, no warranty.

    Next dealer took a quick look, said, all the symptoms of bad prep, it will get a full paint job under warranty, including redoing all the custom hand painted pinstriping. Will take us about 2 weeks to do. 15 years later when i sold the van, paint still looked like new.
  • We had great customer service from Jayco and are experiencing the same from Keystone so far. Our experiences from two different dealers are also similar - they both take forever for simple repairs but they both get the repairs done. The advantage of Jayco is the second year of warranty which came in handy for us. We are pretty sure we are SOL after the first year with Keystone.
  • pbohart wrote:
    Again...not trying to bash Keystone.


    I am sorry but you are bashing Keystone. That is the purpose of your post to tell everyone how Keystone did not cover problems that Jayco covered in your RV.

    If it is not bashing.....then what is it?
  • ?????

    why would the factory be responsible for a dealers mistakes?

    obviously it was damaged in transit. explain how the manufacture is at fault if they were never told about it?

    and the spare tire cover? you do not hold the dealer accountable 100 percent for this? or for that matter, your friend himself for not making sure it was secure?

    silly post
  • I've always heard that about Jayco. Fortunately haven't needed to use them in that manner. Glad it worked out for you.