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sabconsulting's avatar
Aug 29, 2013

Adding a 2nd battery

If I am to park for more than 1 night in one place without hookup or a lot of sun then I'm going to need a 2nd battery.

Unfortunately there is no space to fit it. So the only option I can see is to do this:

Take a battery cable, connected in parallel with the existing battery, out to one of those high amperage connectors (the type people use for connecting demountable winches etc.) that I would mount under the cabover step.

Fit another 12v battery into a portable battery box with a similar battery cable to a mating connector.

I could then leave this 2nd battery plugged in full time, in parallel with the main battery, but move it around inside the camper depending upon where it is least inconvenient at the time, e.g. under the dinette, on top of the couch, etc. and when access is needed remove it altogether.

My reasons and restrictions are as follows:

1) I don't have space for the 2nd battery outside the camper.
2) I don't want a battery that I only plug in occasionally - I can imagine that going flat sitting in the garage while the other one stays charged up from the permanently connected solar.
3) But I want to be able to disconnect it while working in the camper.
4) I am sticking to old fashioned 12v lead acid batteries for the moment - I want something easy to charge from the alternator / solar / battery charger.
5) Over here a generator is not an option - campgrounds don't allow them.

However, some questions, not being an expert on lead acid batteries:

1) I'll use good thick starter-motor cable between the batteries, but it will still be around 5 foot in total (with a connector in between). This will lead to a bit of voltage drop. Is this likely to cause me a real problem? To reiterate the charging voltage will be applied directly to the terminals of the original battery, but then cables will take that from there along to the 2nd battery. I am aware that if the 2nd battery was permanently wired I wouldn't do it as I would want to ensure the voltage was consistent across the batteries.
2) My current camper battery is over a year old. Do I need to buy two identical batteries when I do this rather than just adding a 2nd brand new battery to an older existing one?

Thanks in advance,

Steve.
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    TORK-LIFT may have your answer for mounting standard battery boxes under the truck frame. Have never personally seem one of these unit but have read about them... Sounds like a good idea for your situation...



    Roy Ken
  • I think you should be OK adding to a year old battery. No room in front of or in back of the truck wheels? I'd sure rather see the 2nd battery in a fixed location.
  • I also looked at putting mine in the engine compartment in the extra battery spot but my battery was too big.
  • As to the age of the battery's. I have two AGM's the age difference is two years, about. They are both group 31's and different manufacturers. They have been mated for three years and I have not had the first problem, yet.

    The run between them is about seven ft. I used no4 ga marine wire. When measuring volts there is no drop in charging nor discharge.
  • I put my second battery in the back of the truck with an anderson connector near the tongue and an anderson connector at the second battery so I can set the battery on the tongue/spare tire if I want to drive the truck and still have both batteries hooked up. The gauge of wire you use will be determined by the load you put on your system. Im using a 300 watt pure sine inverter to power ONLY my 24 inch led tv and I used 10 gauge wire.
  • Hi Steve,

    if there is any length of cable between the two, make sure that the wire gauge is adequate for the high amperage. There are a number of sources on the web that will help you calculate the power loss you can expect and the suitable wire gauge for a given current and length of cable.

    Decent cables can be found in car audio stores ;-) These stores will also have fuses, which you need to protect the cable. Without a fuse near the + pole you create a serious fire hazard, as the batteries can easily deliver 1000 Amps when shorted.

    I am unaware of a coupling which I would trust with the high currents you might encounter. Is there really no storage space in your camper which you could give up for a fixed install? It might be better to move around the stuff that would otherwise be stored there as opposed to a 20-30kg battery.

    If you use normal acid batteries, I would just get another battery of the same type and capacity and wire it up in parallel in your situation. Be sure to have adequate ventilation to the outside in the new battery box, wherever it will end up to be.

    hth,
    Joerg
  • My recommendation that I received from other people and mechanics is to always have two identical batteries.

    On my Ram pickup, when one battery went bad, I replaced both. I have always done the same with my 5th wheel camper and my truck campers.

    Is there not a way to build a mount under the vehicle and still be able to run cables?