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Redneck_bling's avatar
Oct 06, 2016

Advice on matching Ford super duty f250 to Lance 861

I have a lance 861 (2006 at 3,417lbs wet) short bed camper. And a new (2016) Ford F250 xlt, Crew cab, 4x4, gas-6.2l, short bed truck. The truck has a plow package which I believe is an upgraded front (coil) spring package. It has rancho shocks, and Michelin LT275/70R18 E tires (3,640lbs). There is a front anti sway bar. Not in rear.
10,000 gvwr package. I am seeing a specified ford sheet that says 3,100 lbs payload package selector. and yet the door frame tire and loading info says combined weight not to exceed 2,794 lbs.
The GVWR is 10,000 the front axle is 5,940 and the rear is 6,100.
I am asking for some advice on upgrading the suspension. I have had firestone air bags before, and bilstien shocks, with factory helper springs (over loads) on a 99 f-250 crew 4x4 diesel. It worked well but I KNEW i was pushing the envelope. That truck empty was 7160, 7360 with just me + full fuel included, with camper on was 11,540. rear axle load was 7040 and I was 210 over my tire rating on the old truck.(3,450)
The new truck has better tire loads and i see the shipping weight from kentucky plant was 6,613lbs.
I am asking for any sound advice hopefully from someone with a comparable rig. Dually is out of the question and I will use this truck so please lets stay focused on the best way to prepare this truck for the intended task. I will certainly go with Torklift tie downs. I anticipate a rear anti sway bar and air bags. I am uncertain if I should go with replacement spring stacks, helper springs, or try as is?
  • Redneck bling wrote:
    I'm trying to get my mind around this and order all that is needed in one shot from one vendor.


    I'd go to Amazon first - good prices and free shipping.

    Bill
  • I'm trying to get my mind around this and order all that is needed in one shot from one vendor.
  • So, I see the hellwig anti sway is about 247...
    The firestone air bags can be had for 335...
    hellwig helper springs are 331 for 3500 lbs and 300 for 2500 lbs.
    I have had firestone bags before. Are they performing the same duty as the helper springs? And which spring stack....the 2500 or the 3500? Seems the 3500 would elliminate the need for the air bags?
  • My 2005 F250 SC SB had the same 18" wheels but had the Camper Package with the rear overloads and stabilizer. By adding the upper and lower StableLoads, I could carry 7000 lbs on the rear axle without sag or sway. I suggest starting with SuperSprings or a heavier replacement spring pack before doing anything else. See how it rides and add a BigWig stabilizer bar and lower StableLoads if you need more support.

    If you want go heavier, that's when you need 19.5's and heavier dampened shocks.
  • Air bags, Helwig rear sway bar. 80 PSI in tires.
    Wasn't a Ford but Chevy 2500 Duramax diesel. Many satisfying miles with a Lance 820.