Amsoil OE Synthetic

BenK wrote:
Ambient temps only one factor of many...the real temperature issue or that matters
is what temp does the oil itself gets to, held to...all the while being beaten
up inside the ICE

Ambients real metric is the temp differential and your cooling management systems
capacity to reject heat (BTUs) to that ambient temp air

Thanks Ben, my Van consistently sees normal operating temps of 197-203. This Pentastar has an Engine Oil Cooler that is cooled by the engine coolant. There is a 8-15 degree delta on the oil temp. The oil temp is always lower temp than the coolant. Makes me wonder if the engine oil cooler is actually an engine oil warmer. Lol

I suspect when I tow heavy with the Van this will change and the oil temps will go up.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

PaulJ2 wrote:
Maybe off topic a bit but--I just purchased a new Honda ATV off road vehicle. Owners manual states: SG or higher rated oils EXCEPT energy conserving or resource conserving on the circular label.
In other words only oils that are NOT energy conserving rated. Whats with this?
Or is it about the automatic clutch maybe? Says-it may affect lubrication and clutch operation. Interesting.

Yes EC oil will waste a wet clutch in no time.

Ambient temps only one factor of many...the real temperature issue or that matters
is what temp does the oil itself gets to, held to...all the while being beaten
up inside the ICE

Ambients real metric is the temp differential and your cooling management systems
capacity to reject heat (BTUs) to that ambient temp air

Maybe off topic a bit but--I just purchased a new Honda ATV off road vehicle. Owners manual states: SG or higher rated oils EXCEPT energy conserving or resource conserving on the circular label.
In other words only oils that are NOT energy conserving rated. Whats with this?
Or is it about the automatic clutch maybe? Says-it may affect lubrication and clutch operation. Interesting.

Unless you're dealing with extreme temps (Tennessee doesn't qualify) or are planning on extending the OCI, synthetics are a waste of money.

Change the oil with conventional at a reasonable interval and 300K is a walk in the park.

It should be noted that some of the base stocks different brands of oil use come from some of the same sources many times. It's the additive pack that differentiate them.

Since we're on the Amsoil topic whatever happened to "Navydood"? I believe he was a big Amsoil fan.

jerem0621 wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:
Jeremiah-If your paying more for Amsoil and using those change intervals there are many, many oils that will do as good. More info at-

www.bobistheoilguy.com

Those guys over there at BITOG are very knowledgeable about this stuff. It's easy to get lost in some of the conversations there about oil.

I intended to use Mobile 1 as I have had great service from Mobile 1 in the past. Since Mobile 1 is not Chrysler MS-6395N compliant I went with Amsoil. Cost is not a major factor as the price between 6 quarts of Mobile 1 and 6 Quarts of Amsoil OE is negligible.

Not a fan of Quaker State or Pennsoil. Valvoline and Casterol have served me well in the past. I even ran Supertec for years in a 2002 Impala with no problems.

This is my first experience with Amsoil... So we will see how it goes. This is the nicest vehicle we have ever owned so I am splurging some on it. Probably will do the same with my Laramie Ram I hope to buy in the next year or so too.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

I hope your minivan last for many years. So Chrysler doesn't support using oil with an API SN rating?

I thought I read the Mobil 1 product is not Chrysler rated do to some fall out between the two companies. As a result FCA now recommends Pennzoil and is supposedly the factory fill now including SRT products. So FCA doesn't certify Mobil with their rating which give Pennzoil a market advantage.

On the Amsoil topic think about the chemistry that goes into engine oil products and the engineering $$$$ that's required to develop this chemistry to meet all the manufacturers specifications, API, Dexos, etc. In addition to developing new chemistry technology then you have to be able to manufacture it in mass quantities and be able to maintain high levels of quality.

Bottom line I suspect Amsoil purchases there additive pack from one of the oil additive companies in order to meet these latest oil specifications.

srt20 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Say what you want but AMZ/OIL started this synthetic revolution in the auto industry.

Don't tell my I spelled it wrong.

You spelled "me" wrong....:)

HAAAA thanks!

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Say what you want but AMZ/OIL started this synthetic revolution in the auto industry.

Don't tell my I spelled it wrong.

You spelled "me" wrong....:)