Any details on Ford's new HD class gas engine?

Chris Bryant wrote:
It's going to have to have a turbo for the rockies to really cut it.

You do realize that the 6.2 has NEARLY THREE TIMES more HP and torque than say a 1970's - 1990's gas engines that were available in pickup trucks back then.. Many of those big blocks in pickup trucks back then barely had more than 150-160 HP..

Yeah, they ate fuel and went slow, but they got the job done..

Now days folks seem to think you must drive 80 MPH up 10% grades with 20K of weight and never slow down even one mile an hr..

I have a 2013 6.2 3.73 axle and let me tell you it PULLS, I tow 7K TT and even on 9%-10% grades it has plenty of snot left for more..

Yeah, I do understand at higher elevations you will lose some power but really if you lose say 10% of your HP that amounts to about 36 HP which is nothing when you are starting out with 360 HP to begin with..

If one was going to make it a habit towing at high elevations with 10K lbs or more that then go with 4.10 axle with the 6.2..

I realize it won't compare to the diesel but I may be able to live with it for the one week out of the year. Towing around Texas and Florida won't be an issue.

carringb wrote:

theoldwizard1 wrote:

Txsurfer wrote:
... need to tow a 12-14K 5th wheel. I like the 6.2 but just don't know if it would cut it when we tow to the Rockies once a year.

Nothing wrong with the V10, although the fuel economy could be better. Lots of torque. Gear it right, and should have no problem.

Only real problem is you can't get it in a pickup. You'd have to order a cab-chassis and add a bed, but that potentially could mean skipping out on a lot of amenities.

The V10 with the 6R140 torque-shift seems to do at least as good fuel economy wise, as the 6.2L with the 5R110.

Highest trim level available in the cab-chassis trucks is Lariat, and if you go with the V10 there is only one rear axle ratio: 4.88. V10 is not available in the F350 cab-chassis, so you'd have to get an F450 minimum.

I considered going that route myself, and eventually ruled it out. Too many down sides for us, and there was the cost of putting a bed on it as well. The F450 pickup was actually the closest to meeting all of our needs, and has worked out very well.

Ford needs a gas engine option in the F450 pickup though.

:):)

It won't even compare, set your expectations low. I'm not bashing the tundra as they are good truck, but it's no diesel.

Well I'm headed to CO next week so we will see how the Tundra does compared to my CTD I used last summer. If it's bearable I may have to go gas. I'm really curious to see how it performs towing 8k up there.

The Ford 6.2 gas engine teamed up with 4.30 gears is supposed to be a really impressive tow rig.

theoldwizard1 wrote:

Txsurfer wrote:
... need to tow a 12-14K 5th wheel. I like the 6.2 but just don't know if it would cut it when we tow to the Rockies once a year.

Nothing wrong with the V10, although the fuel economy could be better. Lots of torque. Gear it right, and should have no problem.

Only real problem is you can't get it in a pickup. You'd have to order a cab-chassis and add a bed, but that potentially could mean skipping out on a lot of amenities.

The V10 with the 6R140 torque-shift seems to do at least as good fuel economy wise, as the 6.2L with the 5R110.

Txsurfer wrote:
... need to tow a 12-14K 5th wheel. I like the 6.2 but just don't know if it would cut it when we tow to the Rockies once a year.

Nothing wrong with the V10, although the fuel economy could be better. Lots of torque. Gear it right, and should have no problem.

Very little has "leaked" out. Likely it will be a larger version of the existing 6.2L "Boss" engine, probably at least 7.0L. I am guessing they will stay with SOHC, possibly 3 valve, but don't rule out DOHC and 4 valves.

The reason why the V10 has been kept around is that the 6.2L could not pass Ford's internal HD durability tests. So there will be some changes.

My guess is that it will not show up until after Jan 1, 2018 so they will likely call it a 2019.

It's going to have to have a turbo for the rockies to really cut it.