My brother in law has a hybrid 20 ft. Outback. Approximately 12 years old, it has NEVER leaked. It is a tough TT (hybrid). I have a 12 year old Fleetwood (30 ft) TT that is completely ruined. It started leaking from the minute I brought it home. Within 2 years, the entire floor (30 feet of it) was almost rotted out. Put in a new floor, this time a "real" floor and not 2 pieces of luan with foam in between like the manufacturer did. Subsequent years, I dealt with small leaks here and there, then the entire front fiberboard split in half. Now I understand maintenance, but this rig was just a lemon from day 1. I kid you not. Yesterday the ceiling started falling in. Now she has a sign on her that says "free for the taking". Maybe someone can part her out. Almost everything is still in new condition except for the structure itself.