Are You Buying All These Half-ton Claims?

monkey44 wrote:
Well, there is barely safe, barely under the maximum specs of a 1500/150 ... then there is very safe, right into the middle of the maximum specs of a 2500 / 250.

SO, when you're carting around your family, which truck would you rather drive with three of your kids in the back seat?

And, I'd say brakes is one of the major factors -- not weight capacity.

Better not fly. I can guarantee the Southwest, TWA, ect does not say; "Lets be safer today; lets not load up that 747 to 100% of it's payload; lets only load it to 75% of Bowing's spec's. :S

Better not drive either. I can guarantee that 18 wheeler driver did not say; "I want to load it to only 50K lbs today instead of 80K because I want to be real safe today.

Better not take the train for the same reason. In fact, it's best to just stay home.............or buy a class 8 to tow your pop up........just to be super safe! :R

And if you have a tie rod end or ball joint fail you lose steering. If you have a front drive shaft u-joint fail maybe it bounces up though the tunnel and takes out your feet. I have seen far more vehicles on the side of the road with the drive shaft hanging or front wheels pointed in different directions. If the c-clip is a deal breaker look at 350/3500 and larger trucks and be done with it. You will sleep better but if are under the mfgs ratings statistically no safer.

mich800 wrote:

monkey44 wrote:
Well, there is barely safe, barely under the maximum specs of a 1500/150 ... then there is very safe, right into the middle of the maximum specs of a 2500 / 250.

SO, when you're carting around your family, which truck would you rather drive with three of your kids in the back seat?

And, I'd say brakes is one of the major factors -- not weight capacity.

Could you explain how operating under the mfgs specs is barely safe? Or is this just hyperbole? Is that like driving the speed limit is mostly negligent? If you really cared about your family and others on the road you would drive at least 10 under the speed limit.

Hyperbole, 100%. Again, if you lose your trailer brakes while towing serious weights, you are in trouble.

My Tundra with 9000 lbs behind it will eventually stop without trailer brakes, but it will take a LONG time and not be very fun.

Your Ram 3500 with 25,000 lbs behind it will take a LOT longer to stop that my Tundra with 9,000 lbs.

The Volvo long haul with 80,000 lbs behind it will take even longer than the Ram or the Tundra.

Don't tell me that your Ram is safer than my Tundra cause it has bigger brakes... it still isn't going to stop your trailer very fast. This forum is full of exaggerated claims without factual basis to support the arguments.

I'm all for safety. If I could afford a 1 ton dually and the fuel to drive it to pull my camper, I would probably have one... a Ram with Cummins at that. But, I cannot afford one and DON'T NEED IT. The fearmongering that is spread on this forum is ridiculous.

mich800

If I stay off the road I won't get run over. But I am not trying to eliminate all problems. I just don't want a c-clip semi floater.

I don't want to right off any truck. I just want to know which ones have a c-clip axle. I would think there must still be a tapered bearing semi floating axle out there somewhere. I may be wrong, I have looked hard to find one. That's why I came here. Looking for help and information.

You don't have to go up to the one tons to get a full floating axle. All the 3/4 tons have full floaters at least as a option.

buddyIam wrote:
mich800

If I stay off the road I won't get run over. But I am not trying to eliminate all problems. I just don't want a c-clip semi floater.

I don't want to right off any truck. I just want to know which ones have a c-clip axle. I would think there must still be a tapered bearing semi floating axle out there somewhere. I may be wrong, I have looked hard to find one. That's why I came here. Looking for help and information.

You don't have to go up to the one tons to get a full floating axle. All the 3/4 tons have full floaters at least as a option.

Are you looking new or do you need the info for multiple model years?

I will be looking new. Both 2014 and 2015

buddyIam wrote:
I will be looking new. Both 2014 and 2015

The Ford F250 on up are full floating. I am sure others will chime in with the other brands.

2014 Specs

Thanks,
I pretty much thought the half tons were c-clip. From what I have read the old 9 inch was expensive to build so they changed to the 8.8 and the 9.75.

I wonder about the ford and dodge trucks.

buddyIam wrote:
Thanks,
I pretty much thought the half tons were c-clip. From what I have read the old 9 inch was expensive to build so they changed to the 8.8 and the 9.75.

I wonder about the ford and dodge trucks.

Yes, the 9.75 in the F150's are c-clipped. The 8.8 is also lighter and a little more efficient for lighter and/or lower HP vehicles.

Yes with a full floating rear axle you never ever never have to worry about losing the rear tires because of axle or bearing fauiler?

So the wheels bearing can not fail and chew up the nut holding the hub on and cause you to lose everything. Right
Mean only a a C clip axle can fail in such a way to cause a wheel lose.
mean those one ton and 3/4 ton trucks and a few smei trucks I have seen setting along the road with the missing the the wheel hub and brake brake drum with the axle sticking out. Those were C clip axles right?