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- spud1957Explorer
monkey44 wrote:
Well, there is barely safe, barely under the maximum specs of a 1500/150 ... then there is very safe, right into the middle of the maximum specs of a 2500 / 250.
SO, when you're carting around your family, which truck would you rather drive with three of your kids in the back seat?
And, I'd say brakes is one of the major factors -- not weight capacity.
Regarding the brakes, Ford engineers their brakes the stop the GVWR of the vehicle and nothing more. This is clearly stated in my manual.
"The towing vehicle’s braking system is rated for operation at
GVWR, not at GCWR."
So whether it's a 150 or 350, your brakes were designed to stop the vehicle. The trailer's brakes are required to stop the trailer. - Majja13ExplorerSpeaking of mass, I looked up on fords website and the weight of a 150 w/6.2 and the F250 with same engine both in 4x4, can weigh an astonishing difference of any where form 40 to 900 lbs different. Not a hole lot different in these two trucks.
- CKNSLSExplorer
spud1957 wrote:
monkey44 wrote:
Well, there is barely safe, barely under the maximum specs of a 1500/150 ... then there is very safe, right into the middle of the maximum specs of a 2500 / 250.
SO, when you're carting around your family, which truck would you rather drive with three of your kids in the back seat?
And, I'd say brakes is one of the major factors -- not weight capacity.
Regarding the brakes, Ford engineers their brakes the stop the GVWR of the vehicle and nothing more. This is clearly stated in my manual.
"The towing vehicle’s braking system is rated for operation at
GVWR, not at GCWR."
So whether it's a 150 or 350, your brakes were designed to stop the vehicle. The trailer's brakes are required to stop the trailer.
That is true -what they are designed for. But I remember a news story about a pickup truck driver (who pulled in front of the truck) stopping a runaway semi whose brakes had failed. Of course, after the inccident his brakes were completely fried and the trucking company paid for a complete brake over haul. I tried to google the news story for you but it was a while ago and I couldn't find it. - buddyIamExplorerFiremen
You will not lose a wheel due to broken axle on a full floater.
You will with a semi floater except in the case of a tapered bearing semi floater.
A stick of dynamite will blow a wheel off both the semi floater and full floater axles. Lol - fireman41Explorer
buddyIam wrote:
Firemen
You will not lose a wheel due to broken axle on a full floater.
You will with a semi floater except in the case of a tapered bearing semi floater.
A stick of dynamite will blow a wheel off both the semi floater and full floater axles. Lol
My gosh your right. What was I thinking.
Did you read the part about the wheel bearing failure causing it to chew the heck out of the hub and spindle that my cause you lot lose you wheel and hub assembly with the axle shaft attached.
it does happen. - fireman41ExplorerWhat you don't want to see on your chevrolet dual…: http://youtu.be/3jIRWPbUT3E
Guess that was a C clip in 1 ton dully - rhagfoExplorer III
fireman41 wrote:
What you don't want to see on your chevrolet dual…: Link
Guess that was a C clip in 1 ton dully
Yep, I am sure that it was the fault of the Full Floating axle.
That guy is about as bright as a burned out light bulb!!! Likely took the hub off, and didn't reassemble correctly.
There is a saying "You can't fix Stupid"! - buddyIamExplorerRhago,
Well can't say I'm the brightest bulb in the light house. I watched a video of a guy pulling a floor jack down the road. Lol
Can't understand why the guy didn't squirt some gorilla glue on that wheel and wrapped the axle with some ducted tape. That would have got her done. Haha - monkey44Nomad II
mich800 wrote:
monkey44 wrote:
Well, there is barely safe, barely under the maximum specs of a 1500/150 ... then there is very safe, right into the middle of the maximum specs of a 2500 / 250.
SO, when you're carting around your family, which truck would you rather drive with three of your kids in the back seat?
And, I'd say brakes is one of the major factors -- not weight capacity.
Could you explain how operating under the mfgs specs is barely safe? Or is this just hyperbole? Is that like driving the speed limit is mostly negligent? If you really cared about your family and others on the road you would drive at least 10 under the speed limit.
Yes, I will. (and, I never speed, ever) In my opinion, operating a vehicle at the maximum of its safety specs continuously over long periods of time is not as safe as running a similar vehicle in the middle of its safety specs ...
That safety specs data are collected under the optimal conditions and very controlled ... and we don't drive our vehicles under those set conditions all the time on the road --
I'd bet if you haul the maximum weight trailer your truck is designed to tow, and haul it up the Rockies day after day, and then down the other side, with the brakes slowing the decent long enough, you will get brake heat and a problem stopping that weight in an emergency.
Or, haul it across the desert in the heat of summer --
My point was, and still is, would you rather travel with your family in a truck at the maxed out level of its specs (even if just barely under specs), or would you rather carry your family in a truck in the mid-range of the safety specs.
Which one is safer -- I never said "it is NOT safe", I said if it was at the maxed out level of safety specs, it is LESS safe than a truck that runs consistently in the mid-range of its design potential ...
In an emergency situation, it is much more likely you will exceed the safety specs in a truck operating at that max level than will a truck in the middle of its specs -- under emergency conditions, I personally would like a little more room in the specs to handle that emergency ... Just sayin' ...
And, it seems lots of folks on here want to look at the numbers and squeeze every single extra drop out of those numbers. I believe that is an unsafe position to take when your family safety is at stake ...
When your truck is sitting sideways, and one of your kids breaks an arm, and your head aches from hitting the side rail on your door -- "But I was under specs" is a ridiculous statement to make.
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