Benefit of extra fuel tank.

Grit dog wrote:
@Devo, no skin off my back, and you’re correct, no one with any sort of knowledge about thermodynamics or just good horse sense would disagree that heat rises, aerodynamics are more than partly attributable to frontal area and that the smaller, lighter of a trailer you’re pulling, generally the more economical it is on the fuel bill.

But instead you basically pee’d on every RV owner with a big camper as if your (big 40’ long double and triple axle trailers, which are both sweet btw) choices are somehow morally or physically superior to everyone else’s.
I find it mildly entertaining. Others probably only consider it poor behavior.

The spiteful part is your weird incessant jabbing at anything Ram related because you got either a lemon of a truck or a lemon of a dealer, or both. Anyone with half a brain would have understood that from your initial postings on the issue. But somehow, you got the notion to put down anyone who owns the same brand of truck that YOU bought as well, but are now having a bad experience with it.

A little nit picky but heat doesn’t rise heated air does, heat is omnidirectional and moves from a higher intensity to lower.

I just like to have the option to choose fuel stations without worrying too much about having to stop "right now!".
Not so much for price, but to be able to pass on ones that are hard to get into, or say I'll just fuel up after we are settled in at the campsite.
We still stop way more often then the range on my tank, but that doesn't mean I want to try to combine every rest/stretch/bathroom stop into a fuel stop as well.
I just like the extra options a large tank provides.

It's like the argument about the new 8-10 speed transmissions. Will the trucks do the job without them...sure. Is having more options a bad thing? I don't think so!

I've considered installing a 25G side saddle tank from a Tahoe into my Suburban in addition to the stock 42G rear tank, with a switch to pump fuel over to the main tank.

Devo the dog wrote:
In my opinion, a heavy TALL RV is foolish. It has a tall roof, that contains air space you can't use. And, what does that get you? A tall structure that does nothing more than push air as you tow it. Why not throw a parachute behind the RV also?...

Well, you might do a bit of research before you rant about the foolishness of a high roof. Some toyhaulers need a high roof to contain the long ramp they have to unload their trailers. Believe it or not, not everyone will abide by your opinions, and some people resent being called a fool by someone who thinks they know it all. Hint: they don't.

And oh yeah, I like my Ram. :) And I get better mileage than you do, when pulling pulling my "heavy, TALL RV". Maybe it isn't the truck...? :)

Here I am, absolutely SHOCKED that we haven't seen the photo of the yellow 5 gallon can in the truck bed........

I installed a 60 gallon RDS right after I bought my truck in 2011. And while the main purpose of buying it wasn't saving money on fuel, I am absolutely certain that it has more than paid for itself in the time we have had it.

We went over 1000 miles two weekends ago towing the boat, and having the tank saved me two fuel ups where the prices were more than $1/gallon more than the fuel I bought at home.

Sure is nice to stop where you want to, not where you have to. I'll always say that the aux tank was one of the best upgrades I've done to the truck.

And, FWIW, around here the Krogers allow you to purchase 35 gallons at the earned grocery discount. And at least at current prices, I can get the full 35 gallons prior to the pump shutting off due to a spending limit. I hope that continues through the summer, although I have my doubts.

"In my opinion, a heavy TALL RV is foolish. It has a tall roof, that contains air space you can't use."

Stop by some time and I will give you a tour. 5er's have to be tall if a 6'2" person wants to stand up in the upper bedroom area. Then our roofline stays level from there to the back and the cabinetry goes up to and near the ceiling giving us a lot of storage that is nice when living in the RV.

Besides who wants to feel like they are in a Cave.

@Devo, no skin off my back, and you’re correct, no one with any sort of knowledge about thermodynamics or just good horse sense would disagree that heat rises, aerodynamics are more than partly attributable to frontal area and that the smaller, lighter of a trailer you’re pulling, generally the more economical it is on the fuel bill.

But instead you basically pee’d on every RV owner with a big camper as if your (big 40’ long double and triple axle trailers, which are both sweet btw) choices are somehow morally or physically superior to everyone else’s.
I find it mildly entertaining. Others probably only consider it poor behavior.

The spiteful part is your weird incessant jabbing at anything Ram related because you got either a lemon of a truck or a lemon of a dealer, or both. Anyone with half a brain would have understood that from your initial postings on the issue. But somehow, you got the notion to put down anyone who owns the same brand of truck that YOU bought as well, but are now having a bad experience with it.

^Yet another stellar looking invention NRA!

Grit dog wrote:
It’s amazing, some folks’ level of conviction against extra fuel....too funny!

I’ve often wondered about the same thing.

I’ll just give it my “broad-brush” treatment and put it this way: They’re either too cheap (maybe frugal sounds better :W ) to buy one themselves, or they’re too stubborn (ultra practical? :W :W ) to admit that there ARE valid reasons besides just being able to buy large quantities of fuel at the cheapest price to having an extra/larger tanks. ROI isn’t even part of the equation for some of us.

When I had a ‘95 F350 with dual tanks, I replaced the rear tank with a 40 gallon tank, and carried the spare on the rear bumper of the camper. I never had to worry about running out of fuel, or where the next fuel station was.



I got used to that, and didn’t want to give it up when I bought my first F450. The 19.5 tire and wheel is much heavier though, so I could no longer carry it there. The OEM tank is 36 gallons though, so as long as I could have a Jerry can of fuel with me, I’d be fine with that.



I had been thinking about a way to re-purpose the spare tire carrier that had gone unused for a few years, and finally came up with a way to convert it into a fuel can carrier. The 20L can is a Swiss Army surplus, and the 5L can is brand new, and they both use the same spout.

I’ve used the Diesel can more than once on a trip when the terrain or the wind blew my expected fuel mileage and it became obvious we were going to come up short from our planned fuel stop. I’ve been glad I had it easily accessible several times.

I am a notorious pack-rat, and salvage all kinds of things (junk) that would otherwise be thrown away at work, and I had several heavy steel angle plates, a 4'x4' sheet of 1/2" high density polyurethane, a bunch of 6" long carriage bolts, etc. I was actively trying to find a way to use some of this good junk, so I could free up some shelf space in my storage building for newer, gooder junk. I bought the Jerry can holder from a eBay auction at a good price, and I bought the nylon locking nuts. Everything else is salvaged. Actually, I consider the spare tire mount to be salvage as well, since it was originally on an old truck I used to own before the F350.

Here's a better view of the contraption with the Jerry cans removed.



Backside showing salvaged 90 deg. plates.



It can even still fold down, so that it’s easier to pull the can out. After doing some major damage to both my shoulders (torn rotator cuff, torn deltoid, torn biceps), that fold-down feature has been a shoulder-saver. I wouldn't be able to get a full 20L can of Diesel out of the holder if I had to lift it straight up.



:):)

Devo the dog wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
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To the point of putting down other good folks for the type of RV trailer they have??
Really?
Some people just live sad, spiteful lives.

In my opinion, a heavy TALL RV is foolish. It has a tall roof, that contains air space you can't use. And, what does that get you? A tall structure that does nothing more than push air as you tow it. Why not throw a parachute behind the RV also?

Having an opinion about that is not the same as living a sad spiteful life.

With your response though, you're actually the one being spiteful. I stated an opinion and you don't like it. That's your problem, not mine. LOL.

Not jumping in on your argument, just addressing you tall comment. Nothing wrong with cubic inches my friend. It's knowing how to use them. Tall people love it for the obvious reason. They tow a lot better than you think, not like a parachute. A TT has it's curses but a tall fiver like mine is easy peasy. Maybe guys that tow nervous would have the issue you are referencing.

Grit dog wrote:
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To the point of putting down other good folks for the type of RV trailer they have??
Really?
Some people just live sad, spiteful lives.

In my opinion, a heavy TALL RV is foolish. It has a tall roof, that contains air space you can't use. And, what does that get you? A tall structure that does nothing more than push air as you tow it. Why not throw a parachute behind the RV also?

Having an opinion about that is not the same as living a sad spiteful life.

With your response though, you're actually the one being spiteful. I stated an opinion and you don't like it. That's your problem, not mine. LOL.