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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Well Sir you are in the EXTREME MINORITY with those statements. But hey everyone can have an opinion.
Those that track long term dependability (JD Power, Consumer Reports, etc) put Chrysler vehicles a the bottom of the list for reliability. So it's not just my opinion.
Ram finally stopped bringing up the rear but it will be interesting to see if that trend continues, I doubt it. Fiat/Chrysler doesn't know quality.itguy08 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"What is nice to see is Ram finally taking the backseat with sales declining YOY. Back in 3rd place where they belong. Same story from them - subpar vehicles"
Amazing statement!
Why? Their vehicles are subpar and have been for years. Nothing new there. They should have gone extinct in the 80's the first time we bailed them out. The 2nd time in 08 should not have happened. They should have gone the way of all the other subpar manufacturers.
Well Sir you are in the EXTREME MINORITY with those statements. But hey everyone can have an opinion.Ryan*Elli wrote:
Fla-gypsy, Got it. I thought perhaps my third grade math lessons of addition had let me down. I guess if you add all 4 GM product lines together they are out selling Ford volume wise but thats across two different market segments. I see, there is some twisting and turning of numbers there.
Are you forgetting the 450-550 that GM doesn't offer which are certainly included in Ford's numbers? What is there to twist? This argument is about as retarded as the Chevy and GMC truck sales numbers must be kept separate. GM built a midsize pickup and the numbers in which it sells contribute the total number of pickups sold. If Ford doesn't like it, they can build one as well, and it's numbers would count toward total number of pickups they sell.Cummins12V98 wrote:
"What is nice to see is Ram finally taking the backseat with sales declining YOY. Back in 3rd place where they belong. Same story from them - subpar vehicles"
Amazing statement!
Why? Their vehicles are subpar and have been for years. Nothing new there. They should have gone extinct in the 80's the first time we bailed them out. The 2nd time in 08 should not have happened. They should have gone the way of all the other subpar manufacturers.ib516 wrote:
I don't see troll boy's trash. Love the block feature.
Other then the original post he is MIA!- I don't see troll boy's trash. Love the block feature.
- "What is nice to see is Ram finally taking the backseat with sales declining YOY. Back in 3rd place where they belong. Same story from them - subpar vehicles"
Amazing statement! estesbubba wrote:
I have a 2006 Ram and 2015 on order so have been out of the loop for a while. What really surprised me was seeing how well Ram is doing when you look at just heavy duty trucks.
I would like to see the 350/3500 Dually Diesel sales comparisons.- itguy08Nutz has a certain ring to it.
OutdoorPhotographer wrote:
I wonder if the year over year drop for Ford is folks taking a wait-and-see attitude on the aluminum F-150? I'm intrigued by the increased payload and tow rating gained by the reduced weight. I'm not due a truck so I don't have to be a guinea pig. If it sells, maybe they'll go to that in F-250. I've seen rumors of that for 2017.
They just recently got the other (Kansas City) plant online. They are selling every 2015 F150 they can make almost immediately. They are supply constrained and that should ease.
What is nice to see is Ram finally taking the backseat with sales declining YOY. Back in 3rd place where they belong. Same story from them - subpar vehicles.
