Bison electric truck
It looks like a Canadian mfg Havelaar has plans to build a electric truck called the Bison.
Forum Discussion
Huntindog wrote:
I wish I could lighten up I need to loose a few pounds. Like I said earlier I will probably be driving my old Diesels for many years to come.colliehauler wrote:
This thread was about small pickups NOT LONGHAUL TRUCKS OR HEAVY-DUTY PICKUPS. My point was this could be used as a commuter and possibly pull a pop-up to the local campground which a lot of people do.
Is it financially feasible who knows? Right now fuel is cheep, a category 5 hurricane to the gulf or a war could change that overnight.
I brought this up because I thought it was significant of the first modern-day electric pickup, (that I know of).
Ummmm. I was reffering to short haul delvery trucks... 18 wheelers, but not long haul.. They would fare even worse. No matter, the subject is relavent.
Lighten up. Several companies are actively working on bringing to market such trucks.... Of course they like others in the electric car biz are not actually profitable in the conventional sense.. Our GOVT. has been propping them up.
If they had to actually turn a real profit.... They would all be gone.colliehauler wrote:
This thread was about small pickups NOT LONGHAUL TRUCKS OR HEAVY-DUTY PICKUPS. My point was this could be used as a commuter and possibly pull a pop-up to the local campground which a lot of people do.
Is it financially feasible who knows? Right now fuel is cheep, a category 5 hurricane to the gulf or a war could change that overnight.
I brought this up because I thought it was significant of the first modern-day electric pickup, (that I know of).
Ummmm. I was reffering to short haul delvery trucks... 18 wheelers, but not long haul.. They would fare even worse. No matter, the subject is relavent.
Lighten up. Several companies are actively working on bringing to market such trucks.... Of course they like others in the electric car biz are not actually profitable in the conventional sense.. Our GOVT. has been propping them up.
If they had to actually turn a real profit.... They would all be gone.- This thread was about small pickups NOT LONGHAUL TRUCKS OR HEAVY-DUTY PICKUPS. My point was this could be used as a commuter and possibly pull a pop-up to the local campground which a lot of people do.
Is it financially feasible who knows? Right now fuel is cheep, a category 5 hurricane to the gulf or a war could change that overnight.
I brought this up because I thought it was significant of the first modern-day electric pickup, (that I know of). - I deal with commercial trucks all the time at work.
Most all of them are on the road 24/7... With different drivers. They are so expensive that most companies cannot justify them sitting around idle. They need to earn their keep.
So any truck that will take hours to refuel,,,, isn't going to cut it. agesilaus wrote:
The first diesel locomotives were just in the switch yard. Could not handle the long heavy runs made by steam.
Even Musk can't make it work
Many trucks are just local haulers and it would be a great start.
Not sure Bison will make it big but this is a good start.- THe max tow specs have a max of 12percent grade. 21 is pretty good. My 6.5 TD would out pull mydmax my 5 percent at 20K lbs. All due to better gearing in the trans, rear axel, and torque multiplication!
My navistar with a similar sized HP/Torque motor to the 6.5, can do 30K up a low 30 percent grade. The Dmax on the other hand, up a 3 percent freeway grade, due to 150+ percent more HP, would go faster. But if there was a 30 percent grade at the end, the 6.5, and navistar would make it to the camp ground if all three were loaded to 20K GVW or GCW! The dmax would stall out before getting there.
marty pianotuna wrote:
When it is fully loaded it's rated to go up a 21 percent grade. Show me a gasser or a diesel that will do that?
21 percent actually is not much of a grade. I used to have a house with a 22 percent driveway, and my E450 motorhome pulled it easily with a toad in tow. Seattle and Tacoma have city streets that are 25 percent. A truck that could only pull a 21 percent loaded would be pretty useless. By comparison, I did a little bit of research and found the gradeability specs for an Isuzu NPR, a small commercial truck intended for city use. It's rated to pull a 39 percent grade at GVWR. Other commercial trucks are generally specced to be able to pull grades at least that steep in low gear.
And thank you, pianotuna for pointing out in another post that using the 'percent' symbol will cause posting problems. Guess that happens when 20 year old technology is used on a web forum. ;)agesilaus wrote:
Even Musk can't make it work
Maybe he should concentrate on not losing money on every car he sells before they branch out to other vehicle types.- When fully loaded it is rated to go up a 21% grade. Find me a gasser or a diesel that will do that?
colliehauler wrote:
It will be interesting to see if it is rated to pull a pop-up. You got to start somewhere. - http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102736_durable-2012-chevrolet-volt-300000-miles-no-battery-loss
