Broken Frame

silversand wrote:

Wayne wrote:
Pretty much my thoughts. Who knows how long the frame was broke. Driving with one frame rail would be less ridged than two frame rails.

... Tell me you are just being facetious? Or, do you mean driving with one frame rail would feel softer?...

I think you might be reading into my post. I am not being facetious at all. In my opinion, driving with one frame rail would be less ridged than two frame rails. That does mean driving with one frame rail would feel softer.

Wayne

Repair is done, end of story until there is a after story. One or two pics of the break will be up but no pic of the repair so as to avoid more of a P match. Jeeze

Wayne wrote:
Pretty much my thoughts. Who knows how long the frame was broke. Driving with one frame rail would be less ridged than two frame rails.

....driving with one frame rail (God forbid) puts the driver's and passenger's lives in grave danger, and endangers the lives of everyone driving in close proximity.

Am I wrong? Tell me you are just being facetious? Or, do you mean driving with one frame rail would feel softer?

A question for the OP would be: is the repair markedly stiffer feeling than the original frame-intact experience (just to clarify) ?

Silver-

jmckelvy wrote:

jimh425 wrote:
I'm not sure why there is an assumption that a different feel means bad. .......

I was thinking the same thing. The truck had a BROKEN FRAME that is now fixed. :)

It should feel different. Perhaps as it felt before the frame broke?

Pretty much my thoughts. Who knows how long the frame was broke. Driving with one frame rail would be less ridged than two frame rails.

Wayne

jimh425 wrote:
I'm not sure why there is an assumption that a different feel means bad. .......

I was thinking the same thing. The truck had a BROKEN FRAME that is now fixed. :)

It should feel different. Perhaps as it felt before the frame broke?

I'm not sure why there is an assumption that a different feel means bad. I was thinking different as in more stiff.

As far as the auto industry engineers go, what makes people think that every part is made with the most reliability in mind? My experience tells me that those engineers like every other engineer makes a tradeoff, and there will almost always be potential improvements that are possible.

silversand wrote:
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As Travelnuts elaborates, there is no intuition involved in the design and engineering of today's vehicles (or satellites, or space shuttle, or nuclear power plants, or aircraft, etc) , so the same level of engineering, technology and procedure absolutely has to go into a structural repair -- guess-work and pure "experience" with no substantial technical connection to the vehicle manufacturer will have nothing to do with a successful vehicle frame repair or structural repair on a building or an aircraft or subway car or ship; only engineering and a detailed procedural write-up {like Ford and GM have} followed absolutely to the letter by a repair venue, will work. Anything else: and you are playing with your life.

Good luck,
S-

And the world would come to a grinding halt... sounds great, like a utopia of clinical lab coat folks, thinking that the worlds repair shops have the knowledge and equipment available to the manufacturer's (actually, it sounds expensive, time consuming and painfully slow...but that's only based on life experience).



To each his own..

...glad the OP's truck is back in business. The only thing that would worry me about such a frame repair is the reported substantial change in the repaired truck's driving characteristics. This would worry me immensely. The post repair feel in my estimation, should behave like a new vehicle (barring any suspension and wheel modifications the owner may have made post-purchase). I would have applied for an insurance claim for a potential write-off if it were me (but it wasn't me). wonder what kind of guarantee the repair facility has offered the OP ???? Was there a liability release in the guarantee ?

As Travelnuts elaborates, there is no intuition involved in the design and engineering of today's vehicles (or satellites, or space shuttle, or nuclear power plants, or aircraft, etc) , so the same level of engineering, technology and procedure absolutely has to go into a structural repair -- guess-work and pure "experience" with no substantial technical connection to the vehicle manufacturer will have nothing to do with a successful vehicle frame repair or structural repair on a building or an aircraft or subway car or ship; only engineering and a detailed procedural write-up {like Ford and GM have} followed absolutely to the letter by a repair venue, will work. Anything else: and you are playing with your life.

Good luck,
S-

Raften wrote:

bka0721 wrote:

Raften wrote:
Repair is done, time will tell how well it holds up. One thing is for sure, I will be doing a creeper roll around under the truck often from now on. As would be expected, the truck has a different driving feel going down the road unloaded. Tomorrow I will move my boat and TC 130 miles so should get a feel for loaded driving. Thanks for all the interest and advise.

And all this was done without pictures?

This tough group of TC posters let an OP go without ever posting a pic?

Well, then I say it never happened and it was just a really good story.

With a happy ending, as all good tales end in.

b

Yep, just a good story to help pass the time, smiles all around. But wait, my bank balance seems to have gone down.

I could email someone my pictures and they can post them. I can't figure out how to get them to post from a iPhone .

Just nice to hear your going to put the TC back on

Can you e-mail the pics to yourself ,save them to your computer, use tiny pic or somthing to up-load them ,love to see them since I have that truck also

bka0721 wrote:

Raften wrote:
Repair is done, time will tell how well it holds up. One thing is for sure, I will be doing a creeper roll around under the truck often from now on. As would be expected, the truck has a different driving feel going down the road unloaded. Tomorrow I will move my boat and TC 130 miles so should get a feel for loaded driving. Thanks for all the interest and advise.

And all this was done without pictures?

This tough group of TC posters let an OP go without ever posting a pic?

Well, then I say it never happened and it was just a really good story.

With a happy ending, as all good tales end in.

b

Yep, just a good story to help pass the time, smiles all around. But wait, my bank balance seems to have gone down.

I could email someone my pictures and they can post them. I can't figure out how to get them to post from a iPhone .