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oyarsa
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Oct 06, 2017

Buying Advice

My wife and I really want an RV. We have two kids (8 and 9) and she wants a third. Well, technically she wants twins...but let's not go there. We would take it out fairly often, I hope, but not constantly. We are stretching the budget a bit because we just bought a Toyota Sequoia for the prospective third child and towing. I was originally thinking used, but a new one can be had at a monthly payment we could afford.

Today we looked at a local dealer who showed us a 2017 Bullet Ultra Lite 272BHSWE. It really seems to fit our needs. The right size, multiple sleeping locations, a tub, and light enough. We really like it, but I really don't like jumping into things. The salesman was implying he is offering a great deal, but I don't know enough to know.

He is asking $24,995 and offering to include the brake (which I understand from another source I would need), and, if we buy it tomorrow, a hitch & bar. Supposedly the hitch is a nicer one, as well, but he's a salesman...

Any thoughts on that brand/model/price/etc? He also suggested Duratain for an additional $2000. I admit I'm not the best at taking care of something like this (waxing, etc), so I'm thinking it would be a good option, especially since we may be storing it outside and possibly using it in the winter here in Washington where there is lots of salt usage on the roads.
  • Where to start?
    1. That "Duratain" is a big waste of money. They merely spray (if they even do that)some Scotchguard on the woven fabrics and a spray wax on the outside. They probably have about $100 in the whole process. They make more money on those add ons than on the whole deal.
    2. The electric brake controller is a must, but worth about $200 at the very most.
    3. You will be pushing your Toyota to the very max with actual weights, but the dynamic forces of that trailer will be pushing that van around big time. You will not enjoy the towing experience and probably not use the RV because of it.
    4. I am offended by the "if you buy tomorrow will add in the hitch." That is just putting undue pressure on you to buy and shows zero respect for you. Do you really think day after tomorrow they would not do the same deal?
    5. A very quick Google search found that very same trailer for $2000 less.
    6. DO NOT pay anything extra for a pre-delivery inspection.
    7. Do not buy an extended warranty...another rip off.
    8. You should be looking for a much smaller trailer or better yet a pop up. Your van will tow it much better and safer.
    9. Consider buying used. Most RVs are used a few times and then are sold. If you buy that big a trailer to tow behind your van, that is what will happen to you. You will tow it two or three times, realize it is mistake, and sell your trailer.
    10. RVs depreciate faster than a rock sinks in water. Again, buy used.
    11. You need to do much more research before you buy. This forum has a wealth of information. Study the many different RVs. Study the many different brake controllers. Study the many different hitches. You are no near ready to make an informed decision in buying.
    12. A RV show is a great place to start, but leave your check book at home. There will be relentless pressure to buy.
  • “not necessarily what a normal person would end up at.“

    A normal person, as in one, might not. But you have a four person family going on five. You will tell little Joe don’t bring your bike? Scholar daughter June no 25 pound book bag and laptop? No dog? No lawn chairs...four? You’ll end up at max.
  • The floor plan on the 272BHSWE is very similar to a lot of other models, plus or minus some of the features you really like (tub). My daughter bought a similar model Jayco, a couple of years ago. It was a "last years" model and she paid less than $20K.

    Maybe shop for a 2-3 year old model. That should be 50% or less off of the original list price.
  • You are correct. Towing capacity is 7100. I was assuming that the GVWR was merely a maximum, and not necessarily what a normal person would end up at. I take it you think that's cutting things too close?

    The payload is 1230 lbs. How does the loaded hitch weight factor in, exactly, and how can that be remedied?
  • Hello and welcome to the Forum.

    If I am correct your Toyota has a towing capacity of 7100 lbs. (with one passenger and no gear). The trailer you are considering has a GVWR of 7400+ lbs...

    I didn't check the payload of your Toyota but you could be looking at a loaded hitch weight of 1000 lbs or more so that may be a big problem also for you once you load up the family and your gear.

    These are issues you should consider before you sign....and if you do sign do not let them snicker you into the $2000 paint protection package...It's a complete rip off.

    Good luck with you choice. You are being wise by researching first. Don't give up on it. Camping/RVing is a great family activity and adventure.