I posted in this thread before but, want to expand on that. To me camping means at a park. I have used my TT for a place to sleep while at concerts and such. That is different and as such I change the rules for sleeping. This spring I took my 20 foot TT to a concert at a casino near me. Because it was at a casino everybody went to the concert then into the casino and then just "crashed" in the TT. When we were ready to pass out,,,err,,, I mean go to sleep we had 4 of us in the TT, 2 on the bed, one on the dinette, one on the floor, and one person got stuck sleeping in a friends mini-van. Thank God I had my TT because a big storm came up that night with high winds and massive amounts of rain. We were warm and dry even as the neighbors awning got ripped off of his Motor Home. (Worst part was the broken awning banging against his motor home woke us up at 2Am) We didn't need to cook, set inside of, or use the bathroom facilities in my TT. We just slept in it after the concert. This is different then camping. But, am I glad I had my little TT that night!!!!!! It was much cheaper then renting a room at the motel and because it was at the casino we still had access to the pool and all the other facilities.