Flashman wrote:
IdaD wrote:
APT wrote:
The prior two posts neglect the higher used value of vehicle with more equipment, especially the diesels. For the first 10 years or so, diesel powered HD trucks retain at least 50% of that new up front cost. We don't know what the used values will be for the GM twins baby duramax, but I expect similar 50%-ish over the next 10 years.
Anyone getting 22mpg with the 3.6L would likely get over 30mpg in a diesel. I've never gotten more than 16mpg in the crossovers and 19mpg in cars equipped with that engine. The 3.6L driving experience has never impressed me either.
Yep. The cost is a wash, at least on the big diesels (excluding the bad-year Fords). Your up front cost is higher and maintenance costs may be somewhat higher, but your fuel cost if lower and your resale is better. Overall when you think about all the money you're going to spend on that truck in terms of up front cost, fuel, tires, maintenance, brakes, shocks, etc., etc., etc., the marginal difference in cost between big gas and big diesel is immaterial. I'm not quite sure why people get so hung up on it.
Performance and driving enjoyment are far larger factors to me, and they're the reason I drive an oil burner.
What were the good-year fords??
Between 1908 & 1927 Ford made a pretty good vehicle.
Just because I was bored last night I shopped for a NEW RAM 3500 configured with the 6.7 dually, Aisin transmission and I found a 2015 in Spokane for $47,000. I did a pretty extensive search on used ones 2010-2015 and found several in the $35K range with about 100K miles on them. I found very few gasser duallies but I did find a couple around $20K with about the same miles (1000 miles away).
So.... I would concur. If I were buying a diesel I'd buy the new one. For $15K I'd rather smell the new vehicle and enjoy the first 100K miles myself. The used gasers I'd note do not have anywhere near the towing capacity so it is apples-oranges comparison. The new RAM had > 20,000lb capacity while the research I did on the gaser duallies was limiting them by at least 5000lbs less rated towing capacity. If you are full-timing with a DRV there is no doubt a diesel is the right tool. If you are pulling an ultra-light the gaser will work.
