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I drew out what I expect the Powerstroke torque curve would look like relative to a Cat C11.

I think it is very interesting how these curves reveal the different pulling characteristics of an industrial diesel versus a more automotive type diesel. Even though it is quite obvious that the Powerstroke would be able to blow the doors off the Cat it is interesting how the Cat is designed to pull on hills. Imagine the Cat powered truck pulling a heavy trailer, traveling along at 55 mph and it meets a steep hill. On a heavy truck the required rear wheel torque to pull the hill is determined largely by the steepness of the hill and the weight of the truck and trailer. Wind resistance plays a lesser role. So as the hill gets steeper the required torque increases and the engine starts to pull down. As the rpm decrease the torque output of the Cat rises dramatically to meet the hills demands.
A heavy truck powered by the Ford engine would behave quite different. As the steep hill demands more torque the Ford engine would be pulled down but to get any significant increase in torque the transmission would need to start dropping gears.
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I drew out what I expect the Powerstroke torque curve would look like relative to a Cat C11.

I think it is very interesting how these curves reveal the different pulling characteristics of an industrial diesel versus a more automotive type diesel. Even though it is quite obvious that the Powerstroke would be able to blow the doors off the Cat it is interesting how the Cat is designed to pull on hills. Imagine the Cat powered truck pulling a heavy trailer, traveling along at 55 mph and it meets a steep hill. On a heavy truck the required rear wheel torque to pull the hill is determined largely by the steepness of the hill and the weight of the truck and trailer. Wind resistance plays a lesser role. So as the hill gets steeper the required torque increases and the engine starts to pull down. As the rpm decrease the torque output of the Cat rises dramatically to meet the hills demands.
A heavy truck powered by the Ford engine would behave quite different. As the steep hill demands more torque the Ford engine would be pulled down but to get any significant increase in torque the transmission would need to start dropping gears.
Anyone care to make other observations on two different torque curves."},"Conversation:conversation:2401335":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2401335","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2401335"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-10-20T07:37:49.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2016-10-20T07:37:49.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":50,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2401335":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2401335","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2401335_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2401335_1","lastEditTime":"2016-10-15T04:49:34.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2401368":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2401368","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2401335"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:240748"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2401368,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: Cat vs Powerstroke torque curves","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2401368"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2401335"},"body":"
ShinerBock wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Read #1 for your answer. Depending on what is important to you.


I am not sure I totally agree with that article.


I tend to agree... It takes torque to yield an increase in rpm.","body@stringLength":"403","rawBody":"
ShinerBock wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Read #1 for your answer. Depending on what is important to you.


I am not sure I totally agree with that article.


I tend to agree... 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