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Apr 16, 2017

Changing running gears

My 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 has the 5.3L (300hp) with 3.23 gears. I'm towing an 18' TT with a stated dry weight of 3215 pounds and I realize that this number is only a starting point for what I will be towing.

I haven't towed it for any long distances since I just purchased it 3 days ago. It was about a 60 mile drive on relatively flat highway against a 16 mph head wind and it was a miserable experience. Transmission was constantly hunting gears and gas mileage cut in half. I'm not as concerned about the gas mileage as I am about pushing my truck too hard.

My question is has anyone replaced their running gears. I'm interested in ballpark figure on costs, effectiveness and feasibility. I'm pulling it back to Corpus Christi, Texas from Kansas City, Missouri and eventually will be living in it in Terlingua, Texas (close to Big Bend National Park) with an elevation of about 3500 feet so there will be some long grades.

Thanks!

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  • time2roll's avatar
    time2roll
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    Apr 16, 2017
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    Lwiddis wrote:
    Hmmmm....12 year old truck coming up on 13. Not sure I'd put too much money into your truck.
    People said the same to me ten years ago. Now my truck is sweet 16 and running great with the swap from 3.55 to 4.10 ratio. Only regret is that 4.30 was not available front and rear.
  • TurnThePage's avatar
    TurnThePage
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    Apr 16, 2017
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    Going from 3.55 to 4.10 breathed new life into my 97 Ford. It was a completely different vehicle after that. Towing was vastly improved. City mileage was the same, maybe a little better. Highway mileage was down about 1mpg. Towing mileage was slightly improved. Performance was awesome in all circumstances. It cost me about $700 per axle, but that was well over 10 years ago.
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    lbrjet
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    Apr 16, 2017
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    If it is switching between 3rd and 4th just drop it into 3rd. I agree with the poster who said he wouldn't be putting too much money into that old of a truck. By the way, towing into a stiff headwind is no fun no matter what gears you have. At least give it some time amd see what it is like without the headwind.
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    MFL
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    Apr 16, 2017
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    Your previous truck, was 4x4, but you didn't say if this one is 2WD, or 4x4. If just 2WD, you definitely should change to 3.73 gearing. It should be less than 1K, if only rear change. I would not bother with 3.42 gears. IMO, it would not help enough, with a 4-speed.

    Jerry
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    Camper_G
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    Apr 16, 2017
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    Yep, typical gasser towing mileage. 10mpg or so. Although the 5.3/3.42 2015 Silverado i had before this RAM got 12 mpg aversge towing the tt in.my signature. I thought that was pretty good
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    roadjunkie
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    Busdriver wrote:
    read your post about 6.0 fuel mileage. About anything you tow about 9/10 is going to be about the best you can hope for.


    10mpg is what I was getting when I wan't towing on the 3/4 ton HD. I get 19 now with the 3.23 gear and don't want to drop it down to 10mpg when I'm running empty if I don't have to.
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    Busdriver wrote:
    Do you have a tranny cooler, if not you need one, if you do a gear change go to 4:10 will not hurt your fuel mileage muck over 3:73, the 2500 chevys with a 6.0 come with a 4:10
    read your post about 6.0 fuel mileage. About anything you tow about 9/10 is going to be about the best you can hope for.
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    steve-n-vicki wrote:
    3.55 rear gear , I lock out 4th (OD) and run 3rd gear which is 1 to 1, this is what 62 mph looks like


    What speed are you running there? I'm at around 2500 rpm's at 65mph in tow/haul mode.

    Sorry, I just read it was 62mph. Thanks. I guess I need to learn to live with 60mph but it's hard to do in Texas where speed limits are commonly 75 to 85 mph.
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    roadjunkie
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    Lwiddis wrote:
    Hmmmm....12 year old truck coming up on 13. Not sure I'd put too much money into your truck.


    Newer engine (courtesy of the dealer that sold me a truck with a blown head gasket)
    New tires and wheels
    New tie-rod ends
    New rack and pinion steering
    New cat-back exhaust system
    New front brake pads, rotors and rear shoes
    New cold air intake
    New shocks all around

    I may be replacing the tranny with the 4L80E that comes in the HD models and still be money ahead by maintaining rather than replacing the truck. I've owned it for almost 5 years now and know everything that it doesn't need. I've spent a lot of money on it but I've spent far, far less than I would have on truck payments. I used to be the guy that would trade every 2 or 3 years but, as I've aged, I've gotten over that. ;)

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I'm towing an 18' TT with a stated dry weight of 3215 pounds and I realize that this number is only a starting point for what I will be towing.

I haven't towed it for any long distances since I just purchased it 3 days ago. It was about a 60 mile drive on relatively flat highway against a 16 mph head wind and it was a miserable experience. Transmission was constantly hunting gears and gas mileage cut in half. I'm not as concerned about the gas mileage as I am about pushing my truck too hard.

My question is has anyone replaced their running gears. I'm interested in ballpark figure on costs, effectiveness and feasibility. I'm pulling it back to Corpus Christi, Texas from Kansas City, Missouri and eventually will be living in it in Terlingua, Texas (close to Big Bend National Park) with an elevation of about 3500 feet so there will be some long grades.

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I haven't towed it for any long distances since I just purchased it 3 days ago. It was about a 60 mile drive on relatively flat highway against a 16 mph head wind and it was a miserable experience. Transmission was constantly hunting gears and gas mileage cut in half. I'm not as concerned about the gas mileage as I am about pushing my truck too hard.

My question is has anyone replaced their running gears. I'm interested in ballpark figure on costs, effectiveness and feasibility. I'm pulling it back to Corpus Christi, Texas from Kansas City, Missouri and eventually will be living in it in Terlingua, Texas (close to Big Bend National Park) with an elevation of about 3500 feet so there will be some long grades.

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Lwiddis wrote:
Hmmmm....12 year old truck coming up on 13. Not sure I'd put too much money into your truck.
People said the same to me ten years ago. Now my truck is sweet 16 and running great with the swap from 3.55 to 4.10 ratio. Only regret is that 4.30 was not available front and rear.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T12:15:10.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T12:15:10.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":161},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638120","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"322","rawBody":"
Lwiddis wrote:
Hmmmm....12 year old truck coming up on 13. Not sure I'd put too much money into your truck.
People said the same to me ten years ago. Now my truck is sweet 16 and running great with the swap from 3.55 to 4.10 ratio. 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It was a completely different vehicle after that. Towing was vastly improved. City mileage was the same, maybe a little better. Highway mileage was down about 1mpg. Towing mileage was slightly improved. Performance was awesome in all circumstances. 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I agree with the poster who said he wouldn't be putting too much money into that old of a truck. By the way, towing into a stiff headwind is no fun no matter what gears you have. 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If just 2WD, you definitely should change to 3.73 gearing. It should be less than 1K, if only rear change. I would not bother with 3.42 gears. IMO, it would not help enough, with a 4-speed.

Jerry","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T10:33:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T10:33:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":161},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638117","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"283","rawBody":"Your previous truck, was 4x4, but you didn't say if this one is 2WD, or 4x4. If just 2WD, you definitely should change to 3.73 gearing. It should be less than 1K, if only rear change. I would not bother with 3.42 gears. IMO, it would not help enough, with a 4-speed.

Jerry","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2638117_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:310029":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:310029","uid":310029,"login":"Camper_G","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-08-18T06:48:12.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:310029"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638116":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2638116","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2638116":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:310029"},"id":"message:2638116","revisionNum":1,"uid":2638116,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2638099"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2638099"},"subject":"Re: Changing running gears","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638116"},"body":"Yep, typical gasser towing mileage. 10mpg or so. Although the 5.3/3.42 2015 Silverado i had before this RAM got 12 mpg aversge towing the tt in.my signature. I thought that was pretty good","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"194","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T10:09:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T10:09:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":168},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638116","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"194","rawBody":"Yep, typical gasser towing mileage. 10mpg or so. Although the 5.3/3.42 2015 Silverado i had before this RAM got 12 mpg aversge towing the tt in.my signature. I thought that was pretty good","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2638116_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638115":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2638115","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2638115":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:107363"},"id":"message:2638115","revisionNum":1,"uid":2638115,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2638099"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2638099"},"subject":"Re: Changing running gears","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638115"},"body":"
Busdriver wrote:
read your post about 6.0 fuel mileage. About anything you tow about 9/10 is going to be about the best you can hope for.


10mpg is what I was getting when I wan't towing on the 3/4 ton HD. I get 19 now with the 3.23 gear and don't want to drop it down to 10mpg when I'm running empty if I don't have to.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T10:06:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T10:06:37.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":183},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638115","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"361","rawBody":"
Busdriver wrote:
read your post about 6.0 fuel mileage. About anything you tow about 9/10 is going to be about the best you can hope for.


10mpg is what I was getting when I wan't towing on the 3/4 ton HD. I get 19 now with the 3.23 gear and don't want to drop it down to 10mpg when I'm running empty if I don't have to.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2638115_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:2182":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2182","uid":2182,"login":"Busdriver","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-03-06T09:58:15.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2182"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638114":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2638114","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2638114":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2182"},"id":"message:2638114","revisionNum":1,"uid":2638114,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2638099"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2638099"},"subject":"Re: Changing running gears","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638114"},"body":"
Busdriver wrote:
Do you have a tranny cooler, if not you need one, if you do a gear change go to 4:10 will not hurt your fuel mileage muck over 3:73, the 2500 chevys with a 6.0 come with a 4:10
read your post about 6.0 fuel mileage. About anything you tow about 9/10 is going to be about the best you can hope for.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T10:00:47.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T10:00:47.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":183},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638114","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"344","rawBody":"
Busdriver wrote:
Do you have a tranny cooler, if not you need one, if you do a gear change go to 4:10 will not hurt your fuel mileage muck over 3:73, the 2500 chevys with a 6.0 come with a 4:10
read your post about 6.0 fuel mileage. About anything you tow about 9/10 is going to be about the best you can hope for.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2638114_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638113":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2638113","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2638113":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:107363"},"id":"message:2638113","revisionNum":1,"uid":2638113,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2638099"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2638099"},"subject":"Re: Changing running gears","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638113"},"body":"
steve-n-vicki wrote:
3.55 rear gear , I lock out 4th (OD) and run 3rd gear which is 1 to 1, this is what 62 mph looks like


What speed are you running there? I'm at around 2500 rpm's at 65mph in tow/haul mode.

Sorry, I just read it was 62mph. Thanks. I guess I need to learn to live with 60mph but it's hard to do in Texas where speed limits are commonly 75 to 85 mph.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T09:48:38.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T09:48:38.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":183},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638113","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"475","rawBody":"
steve-n-vicki wrote:
3.55 rear gear , I lock out 4th (OD) and run 3rd gear which is 1 to 1, this is what 62 mph looks like


What speed are you running there? I'm at around 2500 rpm's at 65mph in tow/haul mode.

Sorry, I just read it was 62mph. Thanks. I guess I need to learn to live with 60mph but it's hard to do in Texas where speed limits are commonly 75 to 85 mph.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2638113_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638112":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2638112","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2638112":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:107363"},"id":"message:2638112","revisionNum":1,"uid":2638112,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2638099"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2638099"},"subject":"Re: Changing running gears","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638112"},"body":"
Lwiddis wrote:
Hmmmm....12 year old truck coming up on 13. Not sure I'd put too much money into your truck.


Newer engine (courtesy of the dealer that sold me a truck with a blown head gasket)
New tires and wheels
New tie-rod ends
New rack and pinion steering
New cat-back exhaust system
New front brake pads, rotors and rear shoes
New cold air intake
New shocks all around

I may be replacing the tranny with the 4L80E that comes in the HD models and still be money ahead by maintaining rather than replacing the truck. I've owned it for almost 5 years now and know everything that it doesn't need. I've spent a lot of money on it but I've spent far, far less than I would have on truck payments. I used to be the guy that would trade every 2 or 3 years but, as I've aged, I've gotten over that. ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-04-16T09:47:08.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-16T09:47:08.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":183},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2638099/message:2638112","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"889","rawBody":"
Lwiddis wrote:
Hmmmm....12 year old truck coming up on 13. Not sure I'd put too much money into your truck.


Newer engine (courtesy of the dealer that sold me a truck with a blown head gasket)
New tires and wheels
New tie-rod ends
New rack and pinion steering
New cat-back exhaust system
New front brake pads, rotors and rear shoes
New cold air intake
New shocks all around

I may be replacing the tranny with the 4L80E that comes in the HD models and still be money ahead by maintaining rather than replacing the truck. I've owned it for almost 5 years now and know everything that it doesn't need. I've spent a lot of money on it but I've spent far, far less than I would have on truck payments. I used to be the guy that would trade every 2 or 3 years but, as I've aged, I've gotten over that. ;)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2638112_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:13867":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:13867","uid":13867,"login":"steve-n-vicki","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-01-18T17:38:07.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:13867"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638111":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2638111","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2638111":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:13867"},"id":"message:2638111","revisionNum":1,"uid":2638111,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2638099"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2638099"},"subject":"Re: Changing running gears","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2638111"},"body":"3.55 rear gear , I lock out 4th (OD) and run 3rd gear which is 1 to 1, this is what 62 mph looks like
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