Chevrolet exits all ICE production by 2035

Reisender wrote:

Gjac wrote:

tomman58 wrote:

Gjac wrote:
The real question for me is an EV really cost effective when compared to an ICE or hybrid type vehicle. It is hard to cut through the marketing hyperbole on some of the EV web sites. I will probably give my 2009 CRV to my GS so I am looking for another car anyways and started looking at the some of these EV's. I tried to compare an EV to my current RAV4 Hybrid and this is my logic. I live in CT and my total cost per KWH is 27 cents( 9 cents to generate and 18 cents for delivery costs). Most EV's I looked would use 30 KWH's to go 100 miles. At 27 cents/KWH X 30 KWH's= $8.1 to travel 100 miles. My 2019 RAV4 averages 40MPGs so 100 miles/ 40 MPG's=2.5 gals x $2.00/gal = $5.00. If gas goes to $3/gal and it will that would be $7.50. At $4/gal = $10 to travel 100 miles. So to me the equivalent cost is about $3.40/gal. Not factored in is Ct uses mostly oil to generate electric so the electric cost will go up as the price of oil just not as fast as gas. This does not include all the other stuff others have mentioned such as higher initial cost of the vehicle, etc. Bottom line EV's don't make sense to me unless gas prices exceed $4/gal. Am I missing something in my math?

Here in Michigan, I have a separate meter and rate for the electric car which helps. Also when we got our Volt a few years ago they gave us a credit on the lease of the car and a free charging station from Uncle Sam.

They gave you a free charging station at your home? Or did you have to drive to the Chevy dealer to charge it for free?

Not speaking for Tomman. But all EV’s come with a charging device. Some are basic and only plug into 120 volts while others plug into either 120 or 240 volt. What I think Tomman is referring to is some governments have programs where they will partially or totally pay for a secondary charge station they can install at home and keep the other one in the trunk.

And yes, EV dealers usually have free charge stations at the dealership...which almost no one uses...because they are at the dealership. :). Having said that, there is one at a Nissan dealer next to the local A&W that we sometimes use. :). Generally the free stations are at restaurants or casinos or hotels. You drop 30 bucks on lunch and they give you 60 cents worth of power. :). Lol. What a deal.

Yep at the time of the Volts 1st few years you got an allowance from the Feds for a free install of the electric and a charging station. My meter (they gave me a separate meter for the reduced rate (if you charged at night)) A great deal as they had to run 80 feet to get from the meter to the garage. We also charged downtown at the MGM casino as they lease a couple of floors of their parking garage to Edison and they use electric cars and trucks but anyone can just plug in for free. All electrics have a 120 volt hook up to charge anywhere. The new cars can go far further than the volt on electric (the Volt was 30 miles before it went to gas over electric). I am eager to get another electric because around here and even a lot further with the new batteries we will be saving money going back to electric.