Chevy 2500HD Super Ike

travelnutz wrote:
rhagfo,

If you could read and comprehend, the article clearly states it's a 2016 2500HD 6.6L LML Duramax that has 397 HP and 765 torque in a 10,000 GVWR Class 2 truck pulling a trailer scale weighed at 12,700 lbs. Absolutely not one word about it being a 3500HD truck like you claim.

Just so sickening and normal to have a Dodge/Ram owner making false claims since their brand of truck lacks in true at the rear wheels delivered torque and HP and the truck's towing ability which really does and has separated the men from the boys in all the towing ability tests for so many years now. Real/actual delivered torque and HP at the rear wheels is where it's at and what counts not a stripped bare basic engine sitting on a test buck for sales brochure etc claiming higher HP and torque. If it had the delivered torque and HP that is claimed, it actually would show in the real world of the many independent testing and competitions that have been done.

Must be the Dodge/Ram owners way to make them feel better about their fuel guzzling slow pulling over rated trucks and engines!

:R ROTFL
Wow maybe you should reread my post!!

Has nothing to do with BRAND! It is all about doing the Ike, in ANY Brands 250/2500!
The 250/2500 of ALL brands have the same drive train as the 350/3500, they are all weight restricted by their Class 2 10,000# GVWR. The capacity numbers for the 250/2500 have hardly changed in 15 to 20 years.
My 2001 Ram Cummins had a max 5er weight rating of 12,000#, in the 15 year since HP and torque numbers have gone through the ceiling for all of the big three.
Personally I don't see the need to even test other than to compare the ride between a 250/2500 and the 350/3500's.

There may be one wrong statement in this, I am not sure if Ram offers the Asian transmission in the 2500's.

We just did a Rockies trip with our 2500HD 4x4 6.0L w / 4:10 carrying a 4000 camper and it performed very well. I have no issues with the newer GM products, and as the competition is pretty stiff on the big three, I'd expect all three brands to perform in a similar fashion.

Otherwise - they'd lose buyers. Not everyone buys a 2500/250 truck to haul an RV either. Some use it for hauling supplies, materials, gear, etc for work sites. RV's are not the only market for that size truck.

JIMNLIN wrote:

Walaby wrote:
I think all rhagfo is saying is the 2500HD is basically the equivalent of a 3500HD but badged as a 2500. If that is the case, then kudo's to GM.

Maybe I read it wrong, but that's what I thought he was saying.

People sure are thin skinned these days.

Mike

You read it right. Its more than just being thin skinned in this case.

The newer gen 250/2500 trucks in some cases are mechanically the same as a 350/3500....with exception of the rear main spring package in some cases and tires and wheels when looking at each mfg spec sheets.

I think that's exactly what Russ is saying.

The only real exception to that rule is the Ram 3500 SRW and the Ram 2500 SRW starting about 2014 when the 3500 had the leaf spring rear suspension and the 2500 went to coil springs and a 4 link (IIRC, I can't remember what # of links there are.)

Sometimes there are different tiresas well...not much of a big deal.

I like the men from the boys comment...like a truck makes a man...Hahahaha...it doesn't...it's just a tool...that's all...just a tool. A very expensive tool.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

I agree that the GM 2500 HD is probably as strong as a 3500, and I took that as a compliment.

travelnutz wrote:
rhagfo,

If you could read and comprehend, the article clearly states it's a 2016 2500HD 6.6L LML Duramax that has 397 HP and 765 torque in a 10,000 GVWR Class 2 truck pulling a trailer scale weighed at 12,700 lbs. Absolutely not one word about it being a 3500HD truck like you claim.

Just so sickening and normal to have a Dodge/Ram owner making false claims since their brand of truck lacks in true at the rear wheels delivered torque and HP and the truck's towing ability which really does and has separated the men from the boys in all the towing ability tests for so many years now. Real/actual delivered torque and HP at the rear wheels is where it's at and what counts not a stripped bare basic engine sitting on a test buck for sales brochure etc claiming higher HP and torque. If it had the delivered torque and HP that is claimed, it actually would show in the real world of the many independent testing and competitions that have been done.

Must be the Dodge/Ram owners way to make them feel better about their fuel guzzling slow pulling over rated trucks and engines!

You might want to zip up - your insecurity is showing.

Walaby wrote:
I think all rhagfo is saying is the 2500HD is basically the equivalent of a 3500HD but badged as a 2500. If that is the case, then kudo's to GM.

Maybe I read it wrong, but that's what I thought he was saying.

People sure are thin skinned these days.

Mike

You read it right. Its more than just being thin skinned in this case.

The newer gen 250/2500 trucks in some cases are mechanically the same as a 350/3500....with exception of the rear main spring package in some cases and tires and wheels when looking at each mfg spec sheets.

I think all rhagfo is saying is the 2500HD is basically the equivalent of a 3500HD but badged as a 2500. If that is the case, then kudo's to GM.

Maybe I read it wrong, but that's what I thought he was saying.

People sure are thin skinned these days.

Mike

"If you could read and comprehend".

What a great way to respond to a post. Maybe try to stick to facts you will be more credible.

monkey44 wrote:
Towing like that, NO height or wind issues is no challenge for the GM HD with that weight.

Try it will a 10,000 lb 5'er in a crosswind - that's a real test.

10k 5er in a crosswind = no big deal

rhagfo,

If you could read and comprehend, the article clearly states it's a 2016 2500HD 6.6L LML Duramax that has 397 HP and 765 torque in a 10,000 GVWR Class 2 truck pulling a trailer scale weighed at 12,700 lbs. Absolutely not one word about it being a 3500HD truck like you claim.

Just so sickening and normal to have a Dodge/Ram owner making false claims since their brand of truck lacks in true at the rear wheels delivered torque and HP and the truck's towing ability which really does and has separated the men from the boys in all the towing ability tests for so many years now. Real/actual delivered torque and HP at the rear wheels is where it's at and what counts not a stripped bare basic engine sitting on a test buck for sales brochure etc claiming higher HP and torque. If it had the delivered torque and HP that is claimed, it actually would show in the real world of the many independent testing and competitions that have been done.

Must be the Dodge/Ram owners way to make them feel better about their fuel guzzling slow pulling over rated trucks and engines!