Lantley wrote:
BenK wrote:
Not apples to apples
There is a current reason why there are no tiny displacement ICE'S forced fed big block volumes of air in higher class trucks
It is not just HP for TV'S...especially towing heavy. There is a thing called duty cycle...
If you want the 8.1 to be a heavy duty cycle regular hauler it can be but in 2020 there are a lot of better options than a 8.1 if you are towing heavy everyday.
If you are an occasional user and don't tow heavy regularly than the Ecoboost models do come into play.
The 8.1 was a niche vehicle in its heyday that eventually got squeezed out by diesel power and gas prices.
While the 8.1 is still a beast of a motor, 15 years later these vehicles lack the payload and common features of modern vehicles to be a serious contender for most. Yes there are a few seldom heavy tow'ers that can use a bargain priced 8.1. For most the 8.1 is no longer a serious contender, it has simply aged out.
Many have fond memories of the 8.1 that reflect what a great motor it was once upon a time. However that time has passed.
This thread points out that finding a cherry 8.1 simply does not generate the excitement it once did.
Once you drop the fond memories the 8.1 just doesn't stand up to other options. Yes it may be the best bargain option, but when buying a truck for towing heavy there are lots of criteria to consider. Bargain price is not at the top of the list. Furthermore it is a bargain for a reason.....no one else wants it
I don't disagree what you're saying, but that said, the 2000-2007 GM trucks are pretty darn venerable, no matter what engine including the trusty old 8.1L. I was quite surprised when I went shopping last year for a boat puller and saw many of these models of trucks with really high miles that still run really good. It definitely helped make my mind up when I bought my 2001 Yukon from the original owner.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 2013 Ram 3500, but when the trusty 2001 Yukon with 10x the mileage on it gets to all of the same destinations pulling our boat, it really makes me think about things, especially considering I paid a small fraction for the Yukon compared to the Ram......:h