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- I have been wondering how long it would be before the EPA started enforcing the law on diesel trucks. I have long felt that at the very least any vehicle that causes a view obstruction (rolling coal) should be impounded and the tag confiscated until it is put back to the way it left the factory.
- They have built some good vehicles but behave much like children. Many people seem to ignore regulations about all kinds of things. I hope this example helps people wake up.
- It will only be a matter of time before they go after manufacturers who sell lift kits and oversize/aggressive tires for on road trucks altering its fuel economy and therefore emissions output. There main goal is for a vehicle to be unmodified from cradle to grave.
I am not for rolling coal at either. I think blowing huge amount of black smoke on purpose is stupid and wasteful. It was these kind of people that are the reason for these crackdowns. You can delete and still not blow black smoke. Mine hardly blows any smoke even on the 500 rwhp tune with my current turbo. It blows a small puff if you get on it, but clears up quickly.
The funner part is that tuned direct injected gas engines put out way more PM and CO2 than deleted diesels, but no body cares because you cannot see it. ShinerBock wrote:
The funner part is that tuned direct injected gas engines put out way more PM and CO2 than deleted diesels, but no body cares because you cannot see it.
Someone gets it.
99.whatever number you want % think that if you can't see it; it must be clean. As you know ShinerBock, nothing could be further from the truth.
Don't get me started on the "coal and nuke" cars. But just because the coal plant is not in their back yard means those cars are clean. :R :R- Don't know if they have started cracking down on those diesel smoke blowers around here or not, but where I used to see them often, I can't remember now the last time I saw one. Maybe those guys have just finally matured? Nah. And, yes, I am only speaking of those trucks modified to blow smoke.
Groover wrote:
I have been wondering how long it would be before the EPA started enforcing the law on diesel trucks. I have long felt that at the very least any vehicle that causes a view obstruction (rolling coal) should be impounded and the tag confiscated until it is put back to the way it left the factory.
A truck rolling coal should be stopped and impounded. Check it, if something went wrong to cause the problem, a reasonable amount of time for repair/re-inspection. But if has been modified, truck goes up for auction to high bidder who is willing to return it to stock.
Owner gets nothing, and still owes big fine.ShinerBock wrote:
It will only be a matter of time before they go after manufacturers who sell lift kits and oversize/aggressive tires for on road trucks altering its fuel economy and therefore emissions output. There main goal is for a vehicle to be unmodified from cradle to grave.
I am not for rolling coal at either. I think blowing huge amount of black smoke on purpose is stupid and wasteful. It was these kind of people that are the reason for these crackdowns. You can delete and still not blow black smoke. Mine hardly blows any smoke even on the 500 rwhp tune with my current turbo. It blows a small puff if you get on it, but clears up quickly.
The funner part is that tuned direct injected gas engines put out way more PM and CO2 than deleted diesels, but no body cares because you cannot see it.
Yep, outta sight, outta mind. However, with a diesel, 'rolling coal' is nothing more than a a 'I have a big weenie' thing. Black smoke from a diesel is indicative of unburned or incompletely burned diesel. Nothing more. My diesel is chipped and straight piped and 99% of the time produces very little visible particulates. Only time it (or my diesel farm tractors) make any visible particulates is when they are working very hard and even then it's very minimal and both my farm tractors are pre Tie4, actually Tier 2 which is basically no emissions hardware at all.
When a diesel engine, any diesel without an oxidation catalyist installed is working at it's design limits, IOW, maximum fueling, maximum load it will pass some visible particulates. If it has a Tier 4 oxidation catalyist, those particulates are caught in the oxidation cannister and are either burned during regeneration by the addition of injected and pre heated diesel fuel or by the catalytic action of the DEF (Urea) fluid and in the case of a substrate catalyist, the DPF filter must be cleaned or renewed at some point, much like changing the oil.
That 'rolling coal' **** needs to be eliminated by whatever means necessary. JMO.- Hey look at me crowd, well guess what the EPA is doing just that.
Groover wrote:
I have been wondering how long it would be before the EPA started enforcing the law on diesel trucks. I have long felt that at the very least any vehicle that causes a view obstruction (rolling coal) should be impounded and the tag confiscated until it is put back to the way it left the factory.
For well over a decade. But it seems like a lot has been reported without much fanfare. There are numerous tuner companies and shops that have been fined or put out of business.
And if you decide to put it on national television and act like an @#! to other vehicles expect a visit eventually.
