Diesel Brothers

SidecarFlip wrote:


Maybe wrong, maybe right. 2012 is Tier 4 which essentially means no visible particulates emitted from the tail pipe. Once you did the 'delete' you violated the Federal Clean Air Standard for your vehicle so you assume all liability and conversely, the resale value has dropped as well. You may pass it off to another owner but if it don't pass emissions testing down the road, or the next owner is subject to the opacity test and fails, the liability comes right back on you as the 'deleter'. How it works, like it or not.

My 2007 7.3 is a Tier 2 engine. I blows minimal particulates but because it's a Tier 2 emissions engine, that is acceptable. Yours however is not.

Getting tired of isn't getting it repaired correctly. You took the easy way out, nothing more.

What are you going to do when the tier levels go out the window and you have to get your vehicles(old or not) up to current emissions requirements. It is already happening to commercial vehicles in some states.

I still find it funny that people don't even know the permitted emissions numbers are or their impacts and yet they will blindly follow whatever the EPA tells them. If you only knew how and why the EPA comes up with their BS numbers and how they forced manufacturers to create the DEF industry and more fuel used all to save .08 g/bhp-hr in NOx. That is nothing compared to the plastic jug trash it created along with worse fuel economy, plants dedicated to make DEF, and fleets of truck to deliver it.

The PM emissions difference between tier 2(.2 g/bhp-hr) and tier 4(.02 g/bhp-hr) is .18 g/bhp-hr. That's it. In fact, due to high pressure common rail, ULSD, VGT's and multi-fire injectors, even a deleted tier 4 diesel emits less PM than your old 2001 on a clean tune that does not dump fuel. But hey, the EPA is not political or corrupt and they know what is best for you so by all means just do as they say without question. Not saying everything they do is wrong, but not all of their decisions are in the best interest of people and are more influenced by money, power, and special interest.

Heck, even Clinton and Obama had to slap the EPA's hand(under Carol Browner) a time or two for going too far. She made many regulations while she was in power based on her activist beliefs rather than what the EPA's own scientist stated on multiple occasions. She was also behind the Animus River cover up when the EPA turned it orange making it toxic for months. She was known for cooking the books just to get her way and for self-preservation.