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Thermoguy
Jul 07, 2022Explorer II
Bird Freak wrote:
Are your EV's going to be disposable vehicles in a few years? With the cost of new batteries to replace out of warranty it will be like trying to sell a used car without a engine. I have yet to see any battery that will not lose charge capacity over the years or even weeks with heavy usage. I would guess after about 5 years when you recharge it would be like just getting a half tank of liquid fuel.
Just makes me wonder.
An EV is not any more disposable than your current car or truck. Battery manufacturers are currently suggesting 300000 miles with about 10% battery loss - so with a 300 mile range, that's a loss of 30 miles, most of it in the first couple years. So, if you can go 300000 miles without a major overhaul, then what, new engine? Isn't that about the same? The difference is the EV needs a new battery because the range isn't as good, now maybe down from 300 to 220 or 200 after 300K to 500K miles. Our ICE vehicles die and need a new engine, not reduced gas mileage... I don't have an EV but think it would be great as a grocery getter at this point. I see the day when our RV's will be towed by an EV 1 ton truck, maybe extra battery packs in the trailer. Imagine if your trailer had a battery pack that could run all your trailer needs for 5-10 days and recharge your truck to get that 100-200 miles from your campsite to home... sounds good to me. As battery technology evolves, or fuel cell, or some new technology, its going to be a win for the person that wants to be off grid.
And even more to the point - what's to say that by the time your EV needs that new battery that there isn't a replacement that's 1/3 the price or less. That's what everyone is working on, more power, less cost. How's that working with ICE vehicles, are engines or fuel getting lower in cost? Once we get away from Chinese Lithium, things should be looking up. Right now a NW company just got a grant for $400 mil or something to expand their production of Sodium Ion car batteries... That's getting away from Lithium and bringing it to the US.
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