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bmanning wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:
OP-

I can't believe this is eating at you.

We used to have a guy working with us that was like the guy you described. His Cummins was the greatest, blah, blah. His Cummins was going to last 400,000~500,000 miles, blah, blah.

When he started his rants we would ignore him. He finally took another job elsewhere. Happiest day we had in many moons.

I love it when guys do that.

Makes you want to say to them: If you weren't one of the handful of engineers that designed the motor, what in the world are you bragging about?

It's like sports fans that refer to their team and say "we;" if you aren't on the coaching staff or putting on a uniform, what's with "we?"

Rant over.

It's not only the Engineers but every one that builds those engines. Many improvements started out from someone on the line saying "hay what if we did this?". We have some good engineers but we also have some that aren't worth the powder it would take to blow them up. Just saying.

Don

The only thing that truly matters is the tire weight rating and what each tire has for weight on it.

Engineer9860 wrote:
OP-

I can't believe this is eating at you.

We used to have a guy working with us that was like the guy you described. His Cummins was the greatest, blah, blah. His Cummins was going to last 400,000~500,000 miles, blah, blah.

When he started his rants we would ignore him. He finally took another job elsewhere. Happiest day we had in many moons.

I love it when guys do that.

Makes you want to say to them: If you weren't one of the handful of engineers that designed the motor, what in the world are you bragging about?

It's like sports fans that refer to their team and say "we;" if you aren't on the coaching staff or putting on a uniform, what's with "we?"

Rant over.

rjstractor wrote:

BenK wrote:
Note the highlighted in bold black, which seemingly says the 'curb'
just previous does NOT include the 'accessory weight', which
to me...means options like: AC, 4x4, upgraded interior, power windows,
power door, power seats, etc, etc


So looks like I'm not going to agree that the 'yellow sticker' does
include all of the options for the vehicle the sticker is on

Those yellow stickers are individual vehicle specific, and post what that actual vehicle's payload is and account for all factory options. Accessories are items installed by the dealer or truck owner, like winches, bedliners, canopies, etc. Accessory weight needs to be subtracted from available payload, factory options do not.

This is what I thought also.

Don

BenK wrote:
Note the highlighted in bold black, which seemingly says the 'curb'
just previous does NOT include the 'accessory weight', which
to me...means options like: AC, 4x4, upgraded interior, power windows,
power door, power seats, etc, etc


So looks like I'm not going to agree that the 'yellow sticker' does
include all of the options for the vehicle the sticker is on

Those yellow stickers are individual vehicle specific, and post what that actual vehicle's payload is and account for all factory options. Accessories are items installed by the dealer or truck owner, like winches, bedliners, canopies, etc. Accessory weight needs to be subtracted from available payload, factory options do not.

OP-

I can't believe this is eating at you.

We used to have a guy working with us that was like the guy you described. His Cummins was the greatest, blah, blah. His Cummins was going to last 400,000~500,000 miles, blah, blah.

When he started his rants we would ignore him. He finally took another job elsewhere. Happiest day we had in many moons.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
The only way your going to know which truck is tougher is to load each one to the point that something breaks. Start with your friend's Chevy keeping track of how much weight you are putting on its back. When it breaks concede that the Chevy is indeed tougher ... end of argument.

Now that's funny

LOL !

Reminds me of my early days and both times a Dodge PowerWagon beat
the snot out of me...

Idaho Panhandle at my secret place. Just finished setting up camp
and an old guy came by with an even older Dodge PowerWagon

Got to talking before we put the steaks on...a challenge came up !

Steaks were on the line. Exactly mine vs his non-steak whatever in
his cooler

Butt to butt pull in the dirt...late at night in the middle of nowhere

Notice it, but didn't click...he beat my K5 Blazer with the 1 ton
suspension.

Didn't eat dinner that night, but loved the experience...as he was a
very cool guy...even for an old guy (me in my twenties)

Fast forward a few years and out at Pismo Beach, Calif

Almost a ditto old guy but different one...he too had an old Dodge
PowerWagon...so licking my wounds from the last experience...I initiated
that butt-butt pull off and lost again... Yeah, steaks were on the line...

Finally a few years later figured out how they cheated !

Noticed the first guy turned his draw bar 'up'. Ditto the second guy

Laws of physic's had their higher ball pull 'up' to unweight my K5's
rear end a 'bit', but enough for me to break traction before they did...

nohurry wrote:
The guy isn't worth arguing with. Just say "Well, I'm happy with my truck, hope you're happy with yours" and go your way.

Something I was say also.
chevman

tell ram hater my little sticker says 5435-that should quiet him down!-whsk

Seems to me that the contention point is "accessory weight".

In this area, I am a expert. Seems my accessory weight has gotten to the point that the Doc tells me I need to lose some of it and I drive a dually.