Got really bored at work today and curiosity took over after discussing specs with a co-worker who had an older 3500 SRW. He did not believe me when I stated that the 2014+ HD trucks with the new frames essentially took the specs and ratings of the class above it. Meaning the 2014 2500's basically became prior 3500 SRW and the 2014 3500 SRW became prior 3500 DRW. He also didn't didn't believe that prior to 2007, all SRW 3500 were in the same 2b truck class as the 2500 3/4 tons due to their sub 10k GVWR. Added 2019 numbers in there as well. Surprising that the GAWRs on the 2019 2500s went down, but everything else went up. Figured you guys would want to see as well. PS: This info did not take that long to get since we already had the Ram bodybuilder charts in our system. A quick v-lookup auto-populated most of it for me.

YEP......Except some SRWs are NOT Class 2 but Class 3 (10,100 --- 14,000)My 2007 3500 SRW 2 WD with 4:10 is 10100# GVWR...Class 3Really depends on 'trim level', gearing and set up

Ooops, I meant to say prior to 2007. 2007 was the first year that the GVWR on on the single wheel 3500 exceeded 10k.2007 Capacity charts2006 Capacity Charts

Are the 2019 SRW's really 3.73 instead of 3.42? I'm not sure why the 2500's would have dropped down a bit on the axle ratings. Maybe they softened up the suspension a bit.

The thing that still baffles me about my 2014 2500 long bed is the GVWR is 10,000lbs, but if you total front and rear GAWR they are 12,500. Curb weight plus published payload equals the 10K GVWR, but the axle ratings exceed those by 2,500 lbs.So am I limited to 10,000 lbs by suspension, brakes, or what? Or.....is the 10K lbs GVWR simply the 'legal' number so the truck can be sold as a 2500 series? Am I truly okay up to 12,500 lbs GVWR since the axles and tires are capable of those loads?I've always been curious about this discrepancy. I'm certain I've exceeded 10,000 lbs GVWR hauling gooseneck trailers and have felt the truck is very stable.

LIKE2BUILD wrote:The thing that still baffles me about my 2014 2500 long bed is the GVWR is 10,000lbs, but if you total front and rear GAWR they are 12,500. Curb weight plus published payload equals the 10K GVWR, but the axle ratings exceed those by 2,500 lbs.So am I limited to 10,000 lbs by suspension, brakes, or what? Or.....is the 10K lbs GVWR simply the 'legal' number so the truck can be sold as a 2500 series? Am I truly okay up to 12,500 lbs GVWR since the axles and tires are capable of those loads?I've always been curious about this discrepancy. I'm certain I've exceeded 10,000 lbs GVWR hauling gooseneck trailers and have felt the truck is very stable.10,000 lbs is the max GVWR for that class of truck. It matters in some cases - if it's used commercially, if you live in an area that has restrictions on parking or traveling on certain urban roadways, etc. But for most of us it doesn't really matter, and from a legal standpoint in every state I'm aware of you can tow up to whatever weight you're registered for regardless of ratings. I have a 2015 version of your truck (albeit short bed) and have zero concerns loading up to the max axle ratings.

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Acampingwewillg
Explorer II
May 03, 2019
Just two thoughts/questions....having a "classic" Dodge 1 ton dually V-10 1996 vintage which I bought to tow with way back when but ended up with a motorhome(its has 26,000 original miles) I certainly see the Large difference in towing capacity today compared to back then!

Secondly, a friend just retired. He wants nothing longer than a 35' Fifth wheel but he also wants a quality one(meaning heavier). Honestly I don't follow the latest trends but I've been telling him for years to get a dually 1 ton ….so he comes up to spend a couple day with us, in his new 2018 Dodge 2500HD Diesel 4wd....very impressive single rear wheel. I'm happy for him but at the same time question it? He tells me towing capacity is roughly 17,000 lbs and Pin weight of 2500 ...and some of the 5ers I
ve looked at in his price/size range push 15-17,000 lbs with Pin weights close to or over 2500

I don't want to rain on his parade cause I alwals figured you should more truck than needed....am I wrong? or will he be OK? He's very impressionable and I'm sure the salesman told him it could tow anything!!! Just looking for opinions….Like I said, I don't keep up with it all as I use to. ( a footnote, I tried directing him to a used F-650 with a 300hp CAT Super Cruzer in mint condition. That would have been plenty of truck although a 2005 with 60,000 miles).

On edit....that 2005 even in the 650 class has less of a tow rating than I expected?
IdaD
Explorer
May 04, 2019
Acampingwewillgo wrote:
Just two thoughts/questions....having a "classic" Dodge 1 ton dually V-10 1996 vintage which I bought to tow with way back when but ended up with a motorhome(its has 26,000 original miles) I certainly see the Large difference in towing capacity today compared to back then!

Secondly, a friend just retired. He wants nothing longer than a 35' Fifth wheel but he also wants a quality one(meaning heavier). Honestly I don't follow the latest trends but I've been telling him for years to get a dually 1 ton ….so he comes up to spend a couple day with us, in his new 2018 Dodge 2500HD Diesel 4wd....very impressive single rear wheel. I'm happy for him but at the same time question it? He tells me towing capacity is roughly 17,000 lbs and Pin weight of 2500 ...and some of the 5ers I
ve looked at in his price/size range push 15-17,000 lbs with Pin weights close to or over 2500

I don't want to rain on his parade cause I alwals figured you should more truck than needed....am I wrong? or will he be OK? He's very impressionable and I'm sure the salesman told him it could tow anything!!! Just looking for opinions….Like I said, I don't keep up with it all as I use to. ( a footnote, I tried directing him to a used F-650 with a 300hp CAT Super Cruzer in mint condition. That would have been plenty of truck although a 2005 with 60,000 miles).

On edit....that 2005 even in the 650 class has less of a tow rating than I expected?

He shouldn't have a problem with just about any 35' or under fifth wheels. Even the Arctic Fox ones, which are quality units, tend to run in the 15k gross range, and retired generally means two people not a family with associated stuff to carry. His rear axle rating is 6500 lbs which should allow over 3000 lbs of pin and hitch weight, and frankly he could bump that up a bit with timbrens or bags (imo). I wouldn't worry about it.
Acampingwewillg
Explorer II
May 07, 2019
Come to find out his payload is 2200 lbs....not so good for a fifth wheel if you want to stay within weight limits. I'm done suggesting anything because at this point no matter what I say, I'm picking on him for his error. I did check his dealer inventory and they had a number of 1 ton and 1 ton dual rear wheel available all in the New 2018 category. Went looking on Sunday at fivers and everything he liked was over his weight limit but of course the salesmen were all saying, just add air bags and your fine...LOL!

He's a hard head so as it stands he will end up with an Ultra Lite fifth wheel(about the same quality as his bumper pull he sold last year) whereas he could pull just about any decent bumper pull he wanted...BUT No way!! May as well compound the truck error with an RV error!
rvshrinker
Explorer III
May 09, 2019
One ton and done.

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