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RobertRyan
Jun 02, 2015Explorer
ShinerBock wrote:RobertRyan wrote:ShinerBrock wrote:
Yeah I was thinking the same thing although going by the charts of the Navara's specs, that 2,200 lb payload is only on cab and chassis work trucks
Actually 2,400lb , 1,100kg payloads. Yes same principle applies as in the U.S. more a work vehicle higher the payload. Difference is the U.S. MidSizers have tiny loads, they are really lifestyle vehicles than any sort of work vehicle
Which is due to the 6,000 lb (2,271 kg) GVWR cap in that class that our midsizers are in. No midsize truck here can have a GVWR of over 6,000 lbs by regulation. Even if I took a truck from Australia that had a 2,400 lb payload there, the very same truck would have a lot less payload here due to regulation. If you ever want to know what an Australian or global trucks(midsize to the US) payload would be here then just subtract its tare weight(curb weight) from 2,271 kg (6,000 lbs) and that is what it will be here no matter what kind of suspension is under it.
Those in the US have more choices on vehicles sizes with different capabilities, and are not limited to small midsize trucks as the only readily available option. In Australia, you pretty much only have the midsize option in a pickup unless you want to pay the high costs for a full size conversion. This means that you have no option but to use your midsizers for loads that would be illegal here due to our regulations. In the US, we can choose between midsize trucks or go into the bigger full size truck depending on how much capabilities we need. Here if you need about 1,000 to 1,600 lbs payload then you get a midsize. If you want between 1,400 to 2,400 lbs payload then you get a half ton. If you want 2,000 to 3,300 lbs payload then you get a three quarter ton. And if you want between 3,000 to 4,500 lb payload then you get a SRW one ton. If you want a payload of 4,000 to 6,000 lbs then you get a DRW one ton. We don't need our midsizers dual cab midsize trucks to haul 2,000 lbs over here because we have the choice to step up in truck sizes unlike you guys.
Whether this is a bad or good thing just depends on the option of the person's point of view. For me, I would much rather have bigger truck for room and stability. I have been in a Toyota Tacoma with add-a-liefs hauling about 1,700 lbs of dirt. It didn't squat past level, but it did not even come close to controlling the weight (due to its size) like my 2500 does with even more weight. Towing is the same way. I can guarantee that my 2500(or my F150) would tow the 7,000 lbs, that these midsizers are rated to tow, with a lot more control and a lot less white knuckles. So again, which one you is better depends on the person in what they want in a truck and how they plan on using their truck. Are US midsizers more for that person who does not tow or haul anything? Yeah, but does that really matter if the added capability is not needed by that perso and they would rather have a smoother riding vehicle? Besides, if they wanted more capability at least the person in the midsizer here has more choices readily available to him.
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