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- BradWExplorer IIIn my particular situation, i don't ramp four rear tires because it isn't needed and i don't want to carry four ramps.
- jaycocreekExplorer II
So I'll say it again. For those who cant comprehend what the discussion is, you should not come on here and advise people to take risks, because you have done it that way for a life time and nothing bad has happened to you.
Go ahead and label me the safety police. I'll wear the badge proudly.
ryoung
If I can,I always block both tires on a dually,always have on several Class C motor homes and TC's sitting on a pair of duallies.
I mean it takes like 30 seconds to throw another set of blocks under the other tire...Why would one not do that?
Not all tires are rated equally,my e-rated tires that came on my truck and were on my last Class C, are only rated to 2650 each and most TC's weigh more than that ready to camp... - BradWExplorer III lost you when you wrote i could have 6,000 lbs on one tire.
- ryoungExplorer
BradW wrote:
On an srw truck, that same single tire will carry the same load running down the interstate at 70 mph for many thousands of miles or setting in the driveway for weeks. Me thinks it will be ok on a leveling ramp overnight.
With this comment you are completely missing the point as others.
Depending on tire rating and the load you are carrying on a duel wheeled truck, it is possible that you could be carrying the maximum axle load which is normally determined by the tire(s).
Assume the tires on a dually are rated at 3200 lbs each and you are carrying a load near the tires rating. Say 3000 lbs per tire. For purpose of explanation, assume the weight is evenly distribute between the left and right position, which may not always the case, so the axle will be carrying 12,000 lbs.
That means that either duals set is carrying 6000 lbs. (3000 lbs apiece). Now if I only put a leveling block under on tire, this means the adjoining dual is off the ground and has subsequently shifted its load to the other tire. You now have 6000 lbs setting on one tire that is only rated for 3200 Does this concept make sense. Is it understandable to you.
According to the Michelin tire manual "And in the case of duals,
it should be evenly distributed on blocks for both tires.
If not, the sidewall cables can become fatigued and
damaged, resulting in a sidewall rupture and a complete,
sudden loss of pressure."
Now, note that the guide says "can be damaged". It doesnt say it will be damaged. Just that it can be damaged. Damage is more likely to happen if the leveling block doesn't cover the full footprint of the tire. But the probability is there. Course some of you have already said that the engineers who design tires and publish safety practices don't know sh!t. Disregard what they say.Do it your way.
Why take the risk of damaging a tire. It's your choice. Personally, I would not do it.
So I'll say it again. For those who cant comprehend what the discussion is, you should not come on here and advise people to take risks, because you have done it that way for a life time and nothing bad has happened to you.
Go ahead and label me the safety police. I'll wear the badge proudly.
ryoung - BradWExplorer IIOn an srw truck, that same single tire will carry the same load running down the interstate at 70 mph for many thousands of miles or setting in the driveway for weeks. Me thinks it will be ok on a leveling ramp overnight.
- mountainkowboyExplorerIt's blue..........NO it's red
- Reality_CheckNomad II
jaycocreek wrote:
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That is just like Nike endorsing Colen Kapernick.A shot in the dark without being well thought out.....
^^^^^^^^^^Bawahahahahaha...
As far as the remainder of your answer and similar responses, to me it is the voice of reason, reality based on experience and common sense. I'll take it any day over the alternative.
JimH's comment is fitting to so much that occurs on this forum. We talk things to death with the 'what ifs' and 'it could happen'..yet, rarely if ever, actual dooms day results are known or shared. I could slip in the bath, but it's not going to keep me from showering.
Keyboard jockey police, carry on.. - jaycocreekExplorer II
But to act with authority, giving out false and misleading information to others, that relates to safety, needs to be pointed out.
Well,I kinda go off of of actual experiences..I once had a loaded logging truck sitting on one block per tire in the front because that was all that was available as I scrambled to change the transmission way up in the hills...Was not a problem but was not the ideal choice either.
If I have a choice in blocking one or two of the tires on a dually,I always choose to block two because I do not want any added expenses down the road..
Butt I must ad,I do not listen to any guide lines like Michelin that are not supported by facts or especially,experiences..
That is just like Nike endorsing Colen Kapernick.A shot in the dark without being well thought out. - jimh406Explorer IIIThe picture obviously isn’t a truck camper with truck camper tires.
... implying that all tires are the same and are vehicles are the same while acting with authority, giving out false and misleading information to others, that relates to safety.
Meanwhile, does anyone reading this thread know of one case of a tire blowing up by supporting the weight? If so, probably should pull up on a block to change a flat of a RV or motorhome ... huh.
All I’m suggesting is that maybe a few might need to take a moment and reflect even if you are the self appointed safety police. - Grit_dogTrailblazer^ If driving a loaded dually up on one tire block for leveling seems risky to someone, that person would be better served to not go outside their home, or stay inside, or take a shower during a rainstorm, or........
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