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JustLabs wrote:
Me Again wrote:
blt2ski wrote:
I see the trolls are back..............
Would you prefer alternative facts? Like no Allison has ever failed and none have ever dropped into limp mode with increase power. If we repeat that enough it will become the new truth, right?
I'd prefer that some of you clowns didn't have to measure your junk in every thread.
Its amazing and quite entertaining how some like to attack like a pack of rabbid dogs if they think they see competition to their male-ness on the horizon, they run around squirting on trees in a confused frenzied little dog macho demonstration.. All the while never have owned anything else in their narrow minded view of truck ownership.:)- As a GM employee, and knowledge of automotive engineering, designing, building, and selling of automotives, there are many variables an automotive company must consider. I could speculate on many reasons why the GM one-ton is what it is. However, I do not want to share what might be a competitive advantage for GM.
I am sure there are others with extensive knowledge of the automobile business, and they know that it is more complex than building cell phones, travel trailers, application software that sends pictures to friends, etc.
You must think of all variables in the process. Me Again wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
For quite some time, GM hasn't seemed to care about holding the highest tow rating crown.73guna wrote:
Seems to be some misinformation about the all mighty Allison.
The Allison is in no way the weak link to 30k towing or at its limits.
If you guys can give me some info to back up your statements then I'll gladly recant.
GM does not want to enter 30k towing limits at this time because they just dont see the market for it.
Ive heard this stated on videos by GM engineers and Ive read it in text.
I'll see if I can find this info. for you all.
Either they passed the test or they did not. If they did they certainly be posting the higher numbers just like Ford and RAM. Spin, Spin, Spin!!!
Even back in 2011 (When Rams was paltry) Ford was besting GM by a little. With GMs performance in all of the tests in that era, it is certain that GM could have taken that crown had they desired to... Just as they could have taken the highest advertised HP/TQ crown... But they chose not to. No idea as to why.
No matter. The D/A combo has been the most reliable, and best performing total package since the day it was introduced, and like a fine wine, has improved with age.
"No idea as to why" again it is the limits for the Allison tranny. Add power and clutches slip and limp mode activates. Chris
You totally missed my point.
For several years, Ford raised their ratings just barely above GMs ( at least in some configurations) As little as 100-200#. With ratings in the 22K range, that is inconsequential. GM could have done the same back to Ford, just barely beating them. They ignored it.
GM could have also claimed the power crown by simply rating their motors under a different standard... They were soundly spanking Ford in the towing hill climb tests, so it was pretty obvious that they were putting more power to the ground... Yet Ford was advertising higher numbers... GM ignored this as well.
So now, some are loudly proclaiming that if GM COULD achieve a higher rating, then they would.... But history has not shown that to be true.BurbMan wrote:
All I can say is, I wish I could afford one of these beauties!!!
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WTH stickered north of $70,000 :E:E:E:EHuntindog wrote:
The D/A combo has been the most reliable, and best performing total package since the day it was introduced, and like a fine wine, has improved with age.
Having owned a Ford, Chevy and now a Ram I have no brand loyalty whatsoever.
I have to agree with this statement. Even the most dedicated Ford fan can't deny the problems of the 6.0 and even the 6.4 engines. The Cummins is great but the transmissions behind them have not exactly been the Maytag washing machine of the group.
Duramax/Alison is the best combo to anyone objectively judging. The injector thing was isolated and way overblown by fanboys of the other brands. It was also backed by Chevy/GMC which is a lot more than can be said for Ford with their engine troubles.Me Again wrote:
blt2ski wrote:
I see the trolls are back..............
Would you prefer alternative facts? Like no Allison has ever failed and none have ever dropped into limp mode with increase power. If we repeat that enough it will become the new truth, right?
I'd prefer that some of you clowns didn't have to measure your junk in every thread.blt2ski wrote:
I see the trolls are back..............
Would you prefer alternative facts? Like no Allison has ever failed and none have ever dropped into limp mode with increase power. If we repeat that enough it will become the new truth, right?- I see the trolls are back..............
Huntindog wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
For quite some time, GM hasn't seemed to care about holding the highest tow rating crown.73guna wrote:
Seems to be some misinformation about the all mighty Allison.
The Allison is in no way the weak link to 30k towing or at its limits.
If you guys can give me some info to back up your statements then I'll gladly recant.
GM does not want to enter 30k towing limits at this time because they just dont see the market for it.
Ive heard this stated on videos by GM engineers and Ive read it in text.
I'll see if I can find this info. for you all.
Either they passed the test or they did not. If they did they certainly be posting the higher numbers just like Ford and RAM. Spin, Spin, Spin!!!
Even back in 2011 (When Rams was paltry) Ford was besting GM by a little. With GMs performance in all of the tests in that era, it is certain that GM could have taken that crown had they desired to... Just as they could have taken the highest advertised HP/TQ crown... But they chose not to. No idea as to why.
No matter. The D/A combo has been the most reliable, and best performing total package since the day it was introduced, and like a fine wine, has improved with age.
"No idea as to why" again it is the limits for the Allison tranny. Add power and clutches slip and limp mode activates. ChrisCummins12V98 wrote:
For quite some time, GM hasn't seemed to care about holding the highest tow rating crown.73guna wrote:
Seems to be some misinformation about the all mighty Allison.
The Allison is in no way the weak link to 30k towing or at its limits.
If you guys can give me some info to back up your statements then I'll gladly recant.
GM does not want to enter 30k towing limits at this time because they just dont see the market for it.
Ive heard this stated on videos by GM engineers and Ive read it in text.
I'll see if I can find this info. for you all.
Either they passed the test or they did not. If they did they certainly be posting the higher numbers just like Ford and RAM. Spin, Spin, Spin!!!
Even back in 2011 (When Rams was paltry) Ford was besting GM by a little. With GMs performance in all of the tests in that era, it is certain that GM could have taken that crown had they desired to... Just as they could have taken the highest advertised HP/TQ crown... But they chose not to. No idea as to why.
No matter. The D/A combo has been the most reliable, and best performing total package since the day it was introduced, and like a fine wine, has improved with age.
