EGR Failure on 6.7 Power Stroke

Powerdude wrote:
Saw a new 6.7 crew cab Ford today towing a pair of jet ski's on a trailer with the hazard lights on.

I was behind the tow truck as it pulled it front of it. The driver was on his phone sitting there shaking his head.

Some things just never change. $55k truck, couldn't have been more than 3 years old.

Yeah, I don't know how many miles and how it was maintained, but it looked all clean and sparkly and the guys wife and kids were standing by the side of the road. The jet ski's looked all nice and shiny.

Totally pathetic sight. Some things just don't change.

Found On Roadside Dead = FORD.

In one (1) year I saw 2 RAMs/5ver's and 1 RAM/gooseneck broke down on the side of the road.

Fix it Again Tony = Fiat

Saw a new 6.7 crew cab Ford today towing a pair of jet ski's on a trailer with the hazard lights on.

I was behind the tow truck as it pulled it front of it. The driver was on his phone sitting there shaking his head.

Some things just never change. $55k truck, couldn't have been more than 3 years old.

Yeah, I don't know how many miles and how it was maintained, but it looked all clean and sparkly and the guys wife and kids were standing by the side of the road. The jet ski's looked all nice and shiny.

Totally pathetic sight. Some things just don't change.

Found On Roadside Dead = FORD.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
EMS/Ambulance units never run for 15 hours waiting for a call!
Don

Never say never. The local government run ambulance service in our locale operates on a service model called System Status Management. The short explanation is the units are always on the road, either handling calls, moving around the county to plug coverage gaps, or idling in 7-11 parking lots ( I see it everyday). No stations, no sleeping crews, they don't work 24 shifts.

As an aside, they are replacing their F-450 based rigs with Ram 4500 based units.

FishOnOne wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
EMS/Ambulance units never run for 15 hours waiting for a call! Show me any Fire/EMS company that does this and I'll show you a chief that needs to be fired!

Even at a multiple vehicle crash scene with multiple extrications and or waiting for the Coroner unit to show up your looking at 4 hours tops. All these units have the ability to idle up when sitting for extended periods. At a scene the units at least ALL I have been involved with and seen for that matter stay running until they arrive at the hospital or back at the station.

If the Ford can't handle extended idle time, then Ford should stop supplying units for EMS/Ambulance use IMO.

Don

Don,
Ignorance is a bliss... You want to fire this chief? Link

BTW... I can understand your post full of angst since RAM owns 8% of this market and Ford owns 68% of this market.

Sincerely,
We Own Work....

RAM and International are taking market share from Ford. Ambulances and wreckers.

rjstractor wrote:

ib516 wrote:
Ambulances live a hard life. Around here they idle A LOT, especially in the winter.

If properly equipped they should have a fast idle setting. Where I work we only idle if we need emergency lights running or if it's extremely hot or cold out. Otherwise we shut them down whenever parked off-street. Same thing with the big trucks, no need to keep them running if you don't have to. Some of our newer ones have the ability to run emergency lighting off of an on board generator, so they only need to run the main motor if pumping.

High Idle just prevents wet stacking and I doubt will help much with the EGR system.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
EMS/Ambulance units never run for 15 hours waiting for a call! Show me any Fire/EMS company that does this and I'll show you a chief that needs to be fired!

Even at a multiple vehicle crash scene with multiple extrications and or waiting for the Coroner unit to show up your looking at 4 hours tops. All these units have the ability to idle up when sitting for extended periods. At a scene the units at least ALL I have been involved with and seen for that matter stay running until they arrive at the hospital or back at the station.

If the Ford can't handle extended idle time, then Ford should stop supplying units for EMS/Ambulance use IMO.

Don

Don,
Ignorance is a bliss... You want to fire this chief? Link

BTW... I can understand your post full of angst since RAM owns 8% of this market and Ford owns 68% of this market.

Sincerely,
We Own Work....

EMS/Ambulance units never run for 15 hours waiting for a call! Show me any Fire/EMS company that does this and I'll show you a chief that needs to be fired!

Even at a multiple vehicle crash scene with multiple extrications and or waiting for the Coroner unit to show up your looking at 4 hours tops. All these units have the ability to idle up when sitting for extended periods. At a scene the units at least ALL I have been involved with and seen for that matter stay running until they arrive at the hospital or back at the station.

If the Ford can't handle extended idle time, then Ford should stop supplying units for EMS/Ambulance use IMO.

Don

rjstractor wrote:


If properly equipped they should have a fast idle setting.

Suspect a high idle isn't nearly enough to keep an EGR from failing over time with the overall amount of time an ambulance spends idling, though the hospitals in my locale finally got wise and require the ambulance jockeys to shut 'em down when they are parked at the ER entrance offloading.

"hammer down until the smoke clears out" ?

This his way of keeping the EGR clean. New diesels DON'T SMOKE !

If they are worried about running it cold (Not likely in Atlanta) use the block heater!!
2,500 hours in 120,000 miles, that is just under 105 DAYS of idling time WAY TOO much!
This post is bit, misleading, in that it a case of extreme abuse!