Electric and ICE forever together?

Several new emerging technologies may limit the demand for EVs in near or distant future or replace them.

It would take many years to build out an expensive National Electric Gid to accommodate a massive surge in operating EVs on the road.

Present national grid is very fragile.

Present and future National Grid still dependent on Fossil fuel to generate electricity. Solar and Wind contribute only small amounts.

Present EVs not as useful or versatile as similar ICE vehicles.

Glad I don't have one in this severe winter on the west coast.

Most EV owners still have ICE vehicle for backup. HE HE!!!!

Many EV owners have or will return to ICE vehicles for some of the above reasons.

With only EV 3 to 5% of the 300,000,000 vehicles on the road. Not likely.

I can go on and on. Yes, I read a lot of auto and tech news.

No way EVs going to replace ICE by 2035 that is media and political smack by politicians.

The future may be a very very fragmented auto/truck powered market.

^LoL

Demand is already high.

In 2023 GM says more than 170,000 people have put down $100 refundable deposits on the Sierra. Last year, Ford sold over 15,000 Lightning trucks, even though the vehicles weren’t available until May. The company closed reservations after receiving $100 deposits from nearly 200,000 potential buyers.

toedtoes wrote:
It all depends on the technology, the electric grid, the government, the buyers, and so on.


I'm not buying anything in the current climate. Who knows what will happen tomorrow. With my luck, I'd end up with the betamax of car engines...

The Betamax thing is a real concern. Currently there are several, real , major issues with EVs. Can they be solved? Maybe. Will they be solved in a way that is backwards compatible? Less likely. Are there competing technologies in development that may render current EVs the equivalent to that Betamax? Yes. Are current EVs perfect vehicles for a percentage of the population? Absolutely. Are they also completely unworkable for another segment of the auto market? Again absolutely.
The difference for me is trashing an obsolete Betamax that cost a few hundred dollars stings. Having a $50,000 white elephant of a car hurts for a long time and will likely leave some pretty ugly financial scars.

goducks10 wrote:
It will depend on whether auto manufacturers have a demand for ICE vehicles.

Demand is high right now.

It will depend on whether auto manufactures have a demand for ICE vehicles. Some demand for ICE cars may go dead if EV's become cost effective. Just like sedans of the past. Ford quit making them and tooled up for SUV's. Same will happen for ICE. Whats popular will be built.

BB_TX wrote:
He is a salesman. Need more be said????

They're trained to know everything when dealing with a customer.

CA Traveler wrote:
No one knows the future of batteries and fuel capability and related costs.

What is known is that Detroit resists change until they are given no choice. Don't think that Californias leading edge requirements won't effect other states etc as California alone has a significant market share.

Just my opinion.

Yep. And the number 1 and 2 vehicles sold in California are electric. Same in much of Europe and Asia. It will come down to where the manufacturers can make money.

He is a salesman. Need more be said????

Since this is in tow vehicles, that's a long way off.