Electric Chevy Silverado Debut

Retired JSO wrote:
Looks like the not so famous Avalanche that lasted only a few years.

At least it’s not the extra ugly version with the plastic cladding.

Looks like the not so famous Avalanche that lasted only a few years.

Living in NorCal, we’ve had an interesting change in Electricity billing. With the change to renewables based on solar what used to be off peak in the evening/ night is now peak price wise. I’ve read up on a large Mega pack project going in on the coast next to a older gas power plant at Moss Landing. Not sure the plant is or will be retired. During high use the batteries are only good for a couple hours.

free radical wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's the new Electric Silverado

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At $107.000 I dont think it will sell very well.

And No doubt the dealers will tack on ten grand or more like Ford does w their MachE.

But good luck GM

Ill wait for Cbrtk so dont need to worry about rust or place to charge when traveling cross country.

Chevy will have a Work Truck version that will have a ~$40k price tag which is more in line with a typical Chevy price tag.

I am surprised GM's goal is to be completely electrified by 2030.

Grit dog wrote:

Thermoguy wrote:
So, if your 60 or under, you will be driving a EV before your driving days are up. Might even be letting the EV drive for you.

I agree largely with everything you said, save for this. Change "will" to "could" and it would be more accurate. Unless of course, you think the govt will be overbearing enough to outlaw ICE's in the near future and place owning a vehicle largely out of reach for the common person and totally out of reach for anyone lower income.
Look now at how many 20-30 year old vehicles are on the road. That makes up a significant portion of the rolling stock out there and are the "affordable" vehicles for those who don't have the means to buy a $40-100k vehicle. If they stopped producing ICEs tomorrow, it would take a couple decades for the old cheap used inventory of EVs to be enough to support those of lesser means.

I'd love to have an EV, and could go strike a check for any EV on the market, in his and hers flavors, to boot. But for anyone who is conscientious about what they spend on vehicles and not just out to save the world or keep up with the Joneses, none of them make financial sense yet.

And btw, as the tide turns and EVs begin to overtake ICEs on the road, if anyone thinks that the power companies won't capitalize on it, you're mistaken. There won't be any "$12" supercharger fillups. The cost of charging, especially on the road will be on par with fossil fuels I predict. No free lunch...

GM and Others have already decided the future as they will NOT build cars and trucks with ICEs in but a few years.

Thermoguy wrote:
So, if your 60 or under, you will be driving a EV before your driving days are up. Might even be letting the EV drive for you.

I agree largely with everything you said, save for this. Change "will" to "could" and it would be more accurate. Unless of course, you think the govt will be overbearing enough to outlaw ICE's in the near future and place owning a vehicle largely out of reach for the common person and totally out of reach for anyone lower income.
Look now at how many 20-30 year old vehicles are on the road. That makes up a significant portion of the rolling stock out there and are the "affordable" vehicles for those who don't have the means to buy a $40-100k vehicle. If they stopped producing ICEs tomorrow, it would take a couple decades for the old cheap used inventory of EVs to be enough to support those of lesser means.

I'd love to have an EV, and could go strike a check for any EV on the market, in his and hers flavors, to boot. But for anyone who is conscientious about what they spend on vehicles and not just out to save the world or keep up with the Joneses, none of them make financial sense yet.

And btw, as the tide turns and EVs begin to overtake ICEs on the road, if anyone thinks that the power companies won't capitalize on it, you're mistaken. There won't be any "$12" supercharger fillups. The cost of charging, especially on the road will be on par with fossil fuels I predict. No free lunch...

Thermoguy wrote:
It seems as though many people that read this forum think that EV's are not here to stay. They are - they are everywhere already. There are large vehicles that are electric, like buses. They are on the street now. They are more economical than ICE Vehicles, require less maintenance, need to be taken off route less for fuel, and can run longer routes. Look at Amazon, UPS, FedEx, etc, they are all on the EV bandwagon. They run their vehicles into the ground with tons of maintenance, the EV promises less maintenance and better performance. This past week at CES in Vegas, John Deere and other heavy machinery companies introduced both EV and Autonomous vehicles. Yes, they are coming and will be here very soon - if not already. The issue with EV's is that the technology was introduced before the infrastructure was put into place. But, that is changing fast. Charging stations and infrastructure is being installed at a very fast rate everywhere, both the government and private companies are installing these now. Many gas stations will add EV charging stations over the next couple years. So, there will be places to drive through with a trailer. The cool thing about EV's is they can be retrofitted with a wireless charging pad, so the vehicle just stops on top of the charging station and the vehicle charges in place. That is how buses are doing it, delivery vehicles will use this method and before long so will every EV. In Sweden they already have an electric highway that can charge as you drive. In addition, companies are planning ways to buy your extra battery to power businesses. You charge at home but don't need all your battery, sell it back to the business while you are parked, and charge again at home. An EV owner can make money because in some areas electricity is cheaper at night vs during the day. These are not pipe dreams, they are here now and being expanded daily. That F150 or Silverado can not only take you somewhere enjoyable on the weekend but it can take you to work and back during the week. So, if your 60 or under, you will be driving a EV before your driving days are up. Might even be letting the EV drive for you. That EV can detect trailer sway faster than you can. It's being tested now, or has been for a few years.

YEP !!!I agree 100% this is not a flash in the pan this is tomorrow !!!

It seems as though many people that read this forum think that EV's are not here to stay. They are - they are everywhere already. There are large vehicles that are electric, like buses. They are on the street now. They are more economical than ICE Vehicles, require less maintenance, need to be taken off route less for fuel, and can run longer routes. Look at Amazon, UPS, FedEx, etc, they are all on the EV bandwagon. They run their vehicles into the ground with tons of maintenance, the EV promises less maintenance and better performance. This past week at CES in Vegas, John Deere and other heavy machinery companies introduced both EV and Autonomous vehicles. Yes, they are coming and will be here very soon - if not already. The issue with EV's is that the technology was introduced before the infrastructure was put into place. But, that is changing fast. Charging stations and infrastructure is being installed at a very fast rate everywhere, both the government and private companies are installing these now. Many gas stations will add EV charging stations over the next couple years. So, there will be places to drive through with a trailer. The cool thing about EV's is they can be retrofitted with a wireless charging pad, so the vehicle just stops on top of the charging station and the vehicle charges in place. That is how buses are doing it, delivery vehicles will use this method and before long so will every EV. In Sweden they already have an electric highway that can charge as you drive. In addition, companies are planning ways to buy your extra battery to power businesses. You charge at home but don't need all your battery, sell it back to the business while you are parked, and charge again at home. An EV owner can make money because in some areas electricity is cheaper at night vs during the day. These are not pipe dreams, they are here now and being expanded daily. That F150 or Silverado can not only take you somewhere enjoyable on the weekend but it can take you to work and back during the week. So, if your 60 or under, you will be driving a EV before your driving days are up. Might even be letting the EV drive for you. That EV can detect trailer sway faster than you can. It's being tested now, or has been for a few years.

Latner wrote:
I'll let all the guinea pigs figure this EV thing out, until then I'll be buying and using ICE vehicles, no questions about what to expect with them...heck, I might not even live long enough to even have a chance at using an EV.

I agree with this. I also appreciate the clear statement that is a simple truth and not overflowing with negativism. I am excited for the future of EVs and it is indeed interesting to see the truck market getting involved. They have a long way to go, especially if you want to pull a trailer like all of us do. Right now, in all honesty, many half tons are used for going to the dump, picking up a small load of building materials so you can build that dog house you needed to build a long time ago. They seldom go off road, they have 4 doors and plush interiors. This crowd will be the first to use the new technology. There will come a day when they improve the range and then they will really take over. So, until that day, let us not rip the new technology, it is good for a start. I think my grandkids will all be driving them.