Electric vehicle mandate in California

ShinerBock wrote:
This kind of leads to another question. If a wildfire, tornado, or other natural disaster knocks out power in a region for days. How do you recharge your vehicle to escape? With my ICE vehicle, I just go the fuel station and get about 10 gallons of gas/diesel just in case (which I have needed on a few occasions). What do BEV owners do? A lot of people recharging right before a disaster would put a lot of strain on the regional power supply. What do you do if your only escape vehicle isn't recharged?

Also, if the trucks delivering relief supplies are electric, then how do they recharge? I know it took weeks for the electricity to come back to the area after the the last major hurricane in Rockport.

Its a good question and various countries are approaching it from a multi pronged approach. Some northern European countries are analyzing key emergency route importance and using a diesel backup approach to existing fast charge stations. Its a little easier there as in many cases fast chargers are already co-located with large truck stops or commercial gas stations. So easier to integrate backup systems. This pic happens to show a Tesla Supercharger site co-located with a truck stop but non Tesla DC fast charge centres are commonly co located at rest stops like this all over Europe.



Other approaches include portable easily deployable DCFC units integrated into a large diesel generator and fuel bowser. Deploy-able on short term for emergency ops. This is an experimental unit in Australia but you get the idea.

Although less common in the US, co-locating charging facilities with existing gas stations is getting common place including in Canada. This is a shell station in Quebec. Its not clear if this one has a backup system as I found conflicting info on wether it does or doesn't. You get the idea.



As far as the other posters concern about everyone needing a portable generator to charge there cars, that is simply not ever going to happen and would be a completely irrational approach. EV's just don't need that much power for daily commutes or use. 6-8 KW daily for the most part covers the vast majority of commuters requirements. Air conditioning and stove use uses more than that. BC hydro estimates that if every personal gas vehicle was magically converted to electric tomorrow the additional load would be around 19 percent. Power conservation and technological improvements over the next two decades will conserve at least that amount in many cases. The vast majority of people who drive an Ev still just plug into a 120 volt household outlet for all their charging needs. In our case the car timers just charge the car in the middle of the night. Here our car is plugged into our christmas light soffett plug.



In some locations non grid connected stations with solar storage capacity are starting to show up as the storage technology develops. Although this is a small unit with small storage this approach is expected to be scalable for minimimum infrastructure expense.



This kind of thing is becoming common in one of the places where we live. In some places this kind of infrastructure is now being integrated with storage facilities on site that can be used for grid backup as well as stand alone ops.



Things are not static. The technology will evolve. The companies that say it can't be done will be marginalized and fall to the wayside. Boeing is full of former SpaceX engineers who pounded the table and told Elon Musk that rockets could not be reused let alone landed on a ship. LOL. :)

Heres a fun video from SpaceX on what a can do attitude can do. And yes I know Americans generally hate this guy (and especially RV netters :) ) but for many he brings a lot to the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1Y2JMK6g8