EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks
So much wheel spinning on EVs, what if they are not the right path forward? The biggest problem with renewable power and EVs is storage, the second is storage, and the third is storage. Another pat...
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blt2ski wrote:
One thing I've noticed. It takes many versions, ea getting things better to realize true progress.
Saw a comparison to Wright brothers plane, to walking in the moon. Took 66 years.
We have a few more years/decades for EV or hydrogen power to be truly usable etc like ICE rigs. I'm positive things will get there. When, not if.
Marty
The issue I see is the decades we have missed because of oil industry subsidies have gave ICEs a advantage over other technology. If you called the water heater system installed on WH by Carter as Wright brothers, we could be 2/3rds of way to moon. But the people that own politicians saw that could cause a decrease in demand.
valhalla360 wrote:
The best return on the dollar spent by a long shot is in increased efficiency but better windows and lights don't get snazzy marketing campaigns.
Is it deliberate that you don't mention the fuel efficiency mandates made cars go much farther on gallon of fuel? And some of that tech is transferred to EV.
An important item people forget about is fuel is only a portion of what we use crude oil for. If we were to cut fuel consumption in half, all the other products that use oil as a feed stock would skyrocket in cost. Take asphalt concrete as an example. It's relatively cheap but we use a lot of it for building and refurbishing roads. If we cut the supply in half, road construction costs would probably quadruple. It would also cause more damage to cars/trucks as road maintenance is put off.
Skyrocketing cost? Yes much of the crude is used for non-fuel products, much is plastic. Now, with much of the cost of getting oil to market paid for by motorist, it is cheaper to make new plastic packaging, instead of out of recycled, or even better reusing the containers. (You remember taking pop bottles back to store? IIRC, much of what we bought then was in glass jars. Glass containers can be cleaned/reused) If the cost of getting rid of the container/harm done to environment, was included in price of bottle pancake syrup, would it be cheaper to clean glass bottle?
And for decades the percentage of asphalt recycled has increased. As the price of the oil has gone up, technology to recycle has improved. Now I know some city/state contracts require a percentage of "virgin" material, but that can change. And if it is recycled, it is not in a fill.
