EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks
So much wheel spinning on EVs, what if they are not the right path forward? The biggest problem with renewable power and EVs is storage, the second is storage, and the third is storage. Another pat...
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A few things without the continual dragging quoted posts along.
The responses to charging and the power grid; The only responses talk about timing it to load share on the grid. But doesn't that epitomize one of the problems with EV's - power on an already taxed grid? If we are already at the infancy telling folks to charge off hours so we don't over burden the system, what happens when millions more are brought home? If the infrastructure isn't there how will the issue of more EV's pulling on an already taxed power grid be addressed if not for more taxes and higher rates? This is more of the EV cart/horse, or ready, shoot, aim approach which is so common in politically pushed agendas. Get votes and figure it out later.
As far as not making it political, the entire EV movement is political to start with. EV's have been around before ICE's and yet never made it in a free market system. The reason - they aren't better. They became part of the green movement and facts were beaten into submission and the entire narrative was on tailpipe emissions. Political platforms were totally built around this. We made one man the richest man on the planet with billions of taxpayer dollars and began "mandates" for future EV's by certain dates to states and auto manufacturers. This was forced on us as a political agenda. The irony is EV's aren't better, or more green, or less foreign dependent, or eco friendly, or humanitarian kind, there is tremendous hazardous waste and mining all of which contribute to the same problems they were proposed to help solve. EV's have become the future because politicians are making it so - with our money. They would never make it on their own, as evidenced by the past 100 years.
I am not anti EV. What I am is against peeing down my back and telling me it's raining while reaching in my pocket so a niche market can buy fun cars. You want to buy an EV, knock yourself out. But why is this going to be forced on everyone else? Even if I don't buy an EV, I've already been forced to pay to build them and I am certain I will be forced to pay to charge them. This is not free market, it's socialism and doesn't solve a single problem EV's were originally proposed to solve.
More irony - I'm liberal.
I get it, oil has/had subsidies too.
The real solution would be to build a product that is actually superior, performs better and does it with less environmental and humanitarian impact. I could get on board with that. EV's are nothing more than another set of the same problems. If you're going to replace one product with another, it should be better.
The responses to charging and the power grid; The only responses talk about timing it to load share on the grid. But doesn't that epitomize one of the problems with EV's - power on an already taxed grid? If we are already at the infancy telling folks to charge off hours so we don't over burden the system, what happens when millions more are brought home? If the infrastructure isn't there how will the issue of more EV's pulling on an already taxed power grid be addressed if not for more taxes and higher rates? This is more of the EV cart/horse, or ready, shoot, aim approach which is so common in politically pushed agendas. Get votes and figure it out later.
As far as not making it political, the entire EV movement is political to start with. EV's have been around before ICE's and yet never made it in a free market system. The reason - they aren't better. They became part of the green movement and facts were beaten into submission and the entire narrative was on tailpipe emissions. Political platforms were totally built around this. We made one man the richest man on the planet with billions of taxpayer dollars and began "mandates" for future EV's by certain dates to states and auto manufacturers. This was forced on us as a political agenda. The irony is EV's aren't better, or more green, or less foreign dependent, or eco friendly, or humanitarian kind, there is tremendous hazardous waste and mining all of which contribute to the same problems they were proposed to help solve. EV's have become the future because politicians are making it so - with our money. They would never make it on their own, as evidenced by the past 100 years.
I am not anti EV. What I am is against peeing down my back and telling me it's raining while reaching in my pocket so a niche market can buy fun cars. You want to buy an EV, knock yourself out. But why is this going to be forced on everyone else? Even if I don't buy an EV, I've already been forced to pay to build them and I am certain I will be forced to pay to charge them. This is not free market, it's socialism and doesn't solve a single problem EV's were originally proposed to solve.
More irony - I'm liberal.
I get it, oil has/had subsidies too.
The real solution would be to build a product that is actually superior, performs better and does it with less environmental and humanitarian impact. I could get on board with that. EV's are nothing more than another set of the same problems. If you're going to replace one product with another, it should be better.
