blackgrizz550 wrote:
Mike Up wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what rear end did the 5.0L have, 3.31, 3.55, or 3.73?? I can't image the 5.0L feeling slow from 0 - 40mph unless it had the 3.31 differential.
Both trucks I drove had the 3.31 rear end. It had plenty of power. It just wasn't as responsive down low as the Eco or Tundra.
That was the problem, not apples to apples. The Tundra comes with a 4.3 ratio rear end in the Tow package. When averaging the first 3 gears of the transmission, with that 4.3 rear end, it equals a 3.55 rear end with the Ford transmission first 3 gears.
You needed to give the 5.0L an apples to apples test with the 3.55 gears, and most likely with the higher tow capacity 3.73 gears, it would had outperformed the Toyota. The F150 is hundreds of pounds less, and 4 hp stronger and only 14 ft-lbs shy of torque. With the 3.73 gears and it's lighter weight, by hundreds of pounds, your opinion would had likely changed.
From the Ecoboost side of things, 3.5L Ecoboost 1st generation owners at the F150 forums have stated that the 3.31 gears actually help get the boost in sooner, giving the engine more power. But with the new 2017 2nd Generation 3.5L Ecoboost, I can see it providing more power than any engine combination, when dyno's show a power increase that would mirror a 425 hp and 510 ft-lbs rating.
I think you would had been happy with either the 5.0L or 3.5L Ecoboost, if you would had configured the 5.0L with the correct 3.73 gear for heavy towing.
Both have great towing capability with the 16,200 lbs GCWR for the 5.0L Crew Cab, 5.5' bed, 4WD and 3.73 gears and Ecoboost 3.5L with Max Tow package and it's 16,900 GCWR on it's Crew Cab, 5.5' bed, 4WD and 3.55 gears.
I just towed my trailer for 3.5 hours through some real high winds and constantly get impressed with how good this engine combination tows so easily.
I'm sure the new 3.5L Ecoboost with it's added power does even greater. Maybe one day, I'll take one out just to compare it's performance advantages over the previous generation.
Enjoy the new truck, I know I get a smile when I accidentally squeal the tires from a down shift at 30 mph!