F150 asa TV for 5th wheel

The info demiles provided is correct. Read Ford's 2017 F150 Towing Guide notes on page 3 for 5th wheel towing;

1.Calculated with SAE J2807 method

Note: Trailer king pin load weight should be 15% of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure vehicle payload (reduce by option weight) will accommodate trailer king pin load weight and weight of passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer tongue load weight and weight of passengers and cargo cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR. These ratings can be found on the vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Label

F150 Towing Guide

demiles wrote:

mhamershock wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

demiles wrote:
FYI, The maximum pin weight you will find on a 2017-2018 F150 is 1755 lbs...

You making things up as you go? I have never seen any such thing as a "Maximum Pin Weight" spec.

LOL. My BS meter went off with this claim too.

OP - I have a 2018 F150 HDPP 3.5EB. Mine's a SCREW Lariat 6.5 box with 2400 lb payload. As set up with an ARE cap, I have 2000 lbs left on the 4800 RAWR. You can get over 3000 lb payload with the right Regular Cab config but you will have to custom order like I did. Done right, it should easily handle an 1800 lb pin. I wouldn't go that high on my config but it can be done. And the 3.5EB with 470 ft lb of torque is a fine motor.

Mike

Call it whatever you want but it’s no claim on my part, it came right from Ford. First from a Ford commercial truck salesman then a phone call to Ford. Your right they don’t come right out and say what the max pin weight is, which is the reason I asked in the first place. If you check any other manufacturers ratings you will find that the max pin weight is 15% of the 5th wheel TWR.

Not sure what you are trying to with the 15% but I don't think there is any 5er with a dry pin of 15%. Most 5er run with dry pin weight between about 18 and 22 percent. Since most the storage in forward of the wheels (their are a few exceptions) so the percentage goes up as you load up to camping. What is 15% is the pin weight that a truck manufacture uses to figure towing capacity. Take a 10,000 5er with 15% gives a pin 1500 so that when in some 1/2 tons but put the pin at more realistic percentage of 22% now you at 2200 pin weight which not only over almost all 1/2 tons but over a lot diesel 3/4 tons.

mhamershock wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

demiles wrote:
FYI, The maximum pin weight you will find on a 2017-2018 F150 is 1755 lbs...

You making things up as you go? I have never seen any such thing as a "Maximum Pin Weight" spec.

LOL. My BS meter went off with this claim too.

OP - I have a 2018 F150 HDPP 3.5EB. Mine's a SCREW Lariat 6.5 box with 2400 lb payload. As set up with an ARE cap, I have 2000 lbs left on the 4800 RAWR. You can get over 3000 lb payload with the right Regular Cab config but you will have to custom order like I did. Done right, it should easily handle an 1800 lb pin. I wouldn't go that high on my config but it can be done. And the 3.5EB with 470 ft lb of torque is a fine motor.

Mike

Call it whatever you want but it’s no claim on my part, it came right from Ford. First from a Ford commercial truck salesman then a phone call to Ford. Your right they don’t come right out and say what the max pin weight is, which is the reason I asked in the first place. If you check any other manufacturers ratings you will find that the max pin weight is 15% of the 5th wheel TWR.

falconbrother wrote:
There's more than a few F-150s in the campgrounds pulling 5'ers.

My dad owns a Sundance Ultralite fiver. He told me I could pull it with my truck... :/

Just because you can doesn’t always mean you should.

OP... I love F150’s. They are my favorite truck... but... if you want to upgrade and pull a fiver then I recommended to get a newer HD Gasser of whichever brand.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

There's more than a few F-150s in the campgrounds pulling 5'ers.

kw/00 wrote:
Before this gets all crazy lol... What fifth wheel are you planning to pull and what are the specs? For all we know the OP may be downsizing to a smaller fifth wheel or the truck has become to much to keep up with repair and money wise. Some smaller fifth wheels do well with 1/2 ton trucks. Power wise I don't think it would be a huge gap with the ecoboost. Funny because the eco 3.5 is putting out very close on what his 03 diesel is.. anyway let us know and I think it will be easier for us to help out.

First let me state I don't see an issue with carrying/pulling a 5er with a 150/1500, see it done fine a lot.
That said the 5er in the OP signature is 32' long and a dry weight of 8,377# and GVWR of 11,500#, that is a lot of fiver for even a Max/Max F150 EB, based on the OP's signature.

03 DMax CC Short bed Pewter
02 305 Jayco 30' BH
Husky Underbed slide hitch with Prodigy Brake
great wife two daughters and one boy
Sadie, the family's golden retriever

Not stated is if the current DMax is a 2500 or 3500, if 3500 likely within all numbers.
If 2500 with a family of five with a good sized dog, likely over the GVWR, while still a safe package, going down to a F150, the strength of axles and maybe tires will go down.

Before this gets all crazy lol... What fifth wheel are you planning to pull and what are the specs? For all we know the OP may be downsizing to a smaller fifth wheel or the truck has become to much to keep up with repair and money wise. Some smaller fifth wheels do well with 1/2 ton trucks. Power wise I don't think it would be a huge gap with the ecoboost. Funny because the eco 3.5 is putting out very close on what his 03 diesel is.. anyway let us know and I think it will be easier for us to help out.

Why would you give up a Duramax you already own and buy a half-ton for towing a 5th wheel?
Especially if budget is enough of a concern that you can’t buy an equal new truck?
I can’t see the sense in that.

troubledwaters wrote:

demiles wrote:
FYI, The maximum pin weight you will find on a 2017-2018 F150 is 1755 lbs...

You making things up as you go? I have never seen any such thing as a "Maximum Pin Weight" spec.

LOL. My BS meter went off with this claim too.

OP - I have a 2018 F150 HDPP 3.5EB. Mine's a SCREW Lariat 6.5 box with 2400 lb payload. As set up with an ARE cap, I have 2000 lbs left on the 4800 RAWR. You can get over 3000 lb payload with the right Regular Cab config but you will have to custom order like I did. Done right, it should easily handle an 1800 lb pin. I wouldn't go that high on my config but it can be done. And the 3.5EB with 470 ft lb of torque is a fine motor.

Mike

A F150 isn't a good idea. Heed the advice above.