bid_time wrote:
All that was asked Larry, is what percentage is enough, 150%, 200%, 400%? All us stupid people would like to learn something from you that know. Simple question, what's the number?
P.s. I tow with an F250, not that it matters. So that leaves out the "not knowing what I don't know" factor.
Just the fact that you seem to think there is some magical number that can be used as some percentage (your 150%, 200%, etc.) as enough of something which again is not specified is exactly why one thinking like that are EXACTLY the ones that "don't know what they don't know" IMO and trying to explain it to them is I feel futile. This is also a prime example of those that thought everything was great with their 1/2T UNTIL they moved up to a more capable 3/4 and larger and then finally understand the "NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE" between the two classes of TVs.
While it's dangerous to try and put specific hard numbers on how much is too much the following is my personal beliefs based purely on what I have gleaned from what has been reported over the years by those with specific experiences towing various sized trailers with various TVs. I think there are generally THREE classes of TVs.
1. Normal 1/2T based TV of the non truck types such as SUVs which include vehicles such as Suburbans, Tahoes, Expeditions, etc. that generally have WBs under 140" and GVWRs in the 7 to 8 K range.
2. 1/2T trucks with WB over 140" which are the Extended cab, super cab, crew cab variety again with GVWRs in the 7 to 8K range.
3. 3/4T and above TVs with GVWRS in excess of 8,500 lbs.
For these 3 classes IMO I feel the TT should weigh less than the actual GVWR of the TV.
Using my "MAGIC HAT" I personally IN GENERAL with a few exceptions would limit towing a full profile TT with the following max GVWR and length for each of above classes as follows:
1. GVWR less than 7K and loaded trailer wt. of 6500 or less, 5500 loaded is best and length should be less that 27 to 28'. Some of these class TV might even need an ultra premium hitch such as a HA or PP.
2. GVWR less than 9K and a loaded wt of under 8K and length up to 31 to 32'.
3. Any TT GVWR, but for TT loaded wts. of 9K and above and lengths over 32' I would want a 1T class TV. I think the heaviest TT is under 11K and is some where is the 10.5K range. Some 3/4T might even need an ulta premium type hitch if length is over 34'.
These are VERY GENERAL ROT with some "wiggle room", but not a lot and two exceptions and sort of special TVs are the 2500 Suburbans and the F150 Eco Max Tow with the Max Payload with the GVWR over 8K (I think that is about 8200 for the reg or extended cab version only). There might be a couple of other "EXCEPTIONS" to the very general classes of TV and TT wts/lengths I have specified above, but in general I think what I have described above represents my views as accurately as I can put then down in words.
Since you said you wanted to learn, the above is what I have to offer and while you might disagree with your admitted lack of knowledge (i.e. your self classification as being one of the "stupid people") there is nothing for us to argue about since you have no specific position or knowledge to share that is similiar to what I have tried put into words in the above.
Hope that helps gives you the "learning" you asked for and if the post of yours above I quoted was a "baited question" then I sure don't have anything to share with someone that is being disengenuous, but I have taken you at your word and have assumed such is not the case.
Larry
