F150 Vs F250

@Powerdude I don't even see how the F150 can tow the trailer above

Right now, a crew cab F250 is cheaper to buy than crew cab F150, roughly same options, if you go build and price them on the Ford website.

If you price a heavy duty payload package F150 (naturally aspirated with the 5.0), and compare it to a similarly equipped F250 with a 6.2 engine, the F150 is higher. The payloads are very similar, but higher on the F250 by about 4-500 lbs).

If you don't add the heavy duty payload package to the F150, then it's not really a fair comparison. Non-heavy duty F150 has a really low payload compared to the F250, so that's not really a fair comparison.

If you add a 3.5 L EcoBoost engine in, the price differential goes even higher, since that's a premium engine. You can't get the heavy duty payload package with the 2.7 L Ecoboost or the base V6, only the 5.0 and the 3.5 Ecoboost.

Expect that price premium to apply to the Super Duty when the aluminum body comes to those models as well.

Ok so narrowing down choices and still totally baffled by the numbers.

Example Trailer: Jayco Eagle 314BHDS, Dry Hitch 920 Lbs / Dry Weight 7710 / GVRW for Trailer is 9975.

Tongue Weights would be between 920 Lbs and 1496 Lbs.

Taking information from Ford Tow Guide F250/350
Gas SRW 19,200 GCRW and 12,200 Max Tow, Truck Weight is 6190, Payload 3000 Lbs. Max Tongue 1250 Lbs.
Diesel SRW 23,400 GCRW and 14,000 Max Tow, Truck Weight ???, Payload 2400 Lbs. Max Tongue 1400 Lbs. (Not enough payload unless move to F350)

Family Weight 500 Lbs
Leer Cap 250 Lbs
WDH 100 Lbs
Camping Stuff in Truck 300 Lbs

1150 Lbs in truck + 1250 Lbs Trailer Tongue = 2400 Lbs. Estimating trailer at 8400 Lbs (Probably conservative with some water and supplies)

Call me crazy but but feels like I need an F-350 and pretty close to dually territory if we go strictly by the numbers. I am also not counting generator, extra fuel, or other misc items which could end up being included.

How are guys pulling 10K trailers with a F150? I mean the above configuration at its limits is well into the numbers requiring a dually and this isn't really a particularly heavy trailer.

{Insert picture of me pulling my hair out}

I misunderstood what you needed. The Torklift SuperHitch Hero is rated for 15k lbs with 1500 lb WDH tongue weight. You need to use the smaller 10.5k lb OEM receiver with it.

jmiller wrote:
My 14 f150 HD has a payload of 2214. It's my receiver that's not high enough.

Yes, and it's impossible to find an after-market receiver to replace or augment the 2011-2014 Max Tow receivers (with 1150# TW for Weight Distributing).

For the regular tow receivers (1050# TW for WDH), you CAN get an after-market upgrade ... but what's the point? The truck probably couldn't handle the TW anyway.

And the Superduties have several possible after-market hitch receivers with higher ratings.

Your only solution, if you believe the Ford's rating is actually a structural limitation of the hitch receiver (and not everybody believes that), is to get it modified/strengthened by a competent hitch shop. Can-Am RV up here in Ontario does it.

Apparently the 2015 F150's Hitch Receiver is rated a bit higher at 1220# for WDH TW. Not sure if that's all of them or what ...

Atlee wrote:
On the 2014 model F150 HD, the tires were LT "E" rating.

lbrjet wrote:
I just priced out the following on the Ford website:
F150 XLT Crew cab 4X4 Ecoboost Max Tow / HD payload priced at $45,200
F250 XLT Crew cab 4X4 6.2L gas 9900 GVWR priced at 43,390

Interestingly the HD payload now comes with LT 'C' rated tires in this build.

That was my point, they changed from 'E' to 'C'.

jmiller wrote:
My 14 f150 HD has a payload of 2214. It's my receiver that's not high enough.

If you have already flipped your stinger to point up, you need a taller one. All the manufacturers offer them and you can find them at any of the online trailer/hitch stores.

You guys are listing "list" numbers. I wonder if the F150 actually sells comparable to what the F250 actually sells at (apples to apples)? I ask because I got mine for more than $10k less than the discussed numbers here.

My 14 f150 HD has a payload of 2214. It's my receiver that's not high enough.

My dealership story: I bought a 1999 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 from a VW dealer in 2004. I knew what I was looking for and this had the right specs (7.4L, 3.73 gears). The tried to put a $500 "marketing fee" in their price sheet. I objected and they said everyone pays it.

I had inspected the 'Burb, and noticed that it was equipped with passenger tires. So I said to them that it wasn't safe to drive off the lot. They called BS on me. So I asked them if I could prove to them it was unsafe, they would take off the $500 and the cost to make it legal.

The hyper-aggressive sales manager agreed. So I showed him the door sticker with the recommended Load Range "E" tires specs. Then I showed him that the 1200 lb. max load rating on the "P" tires would be way below the curb weight of the 'Burb as it sat on the lot.

So I won the wager and got $1000 off (the bogus $500 fee and the cost to replace the tires).

Moral of the story: The only one I can depend on to know what vehicle I need is me.