F250 and lance 1050s

Hi All, first post with my new TC. Picked it up yesterday and leaving Phoenix hit the CAT scale at Love's, with full tank of diesel. Truck and TC together weighed 12,500#. Previously weighed the truck at another scale, 8,400#. Neither of these weights were "scientific", as in pulling everything out and ensuring that only the truck, then truck and camper were weighed, but each of them is +/- 100#. So, I can confidently say that my new Lance 1050S weighs ~4,000# wet, leaving me with an additional 1,500# of capacity.

The TC has all of the options, A/C (Coleman 11), two batteries, solar, furnace upgrade, microwave, generator, awnings, etc. This weight also includes the hitch extension and air bags, so it is representative of "going camping".

bka0721 wrote:

TTBeachBum wrote:

billyray50 wrote:
Lonetow, My GVWR is 9000 on sticker but I installed an add a leaf to each rear pack. Think it added at least another 600 pounds of support. I am going to upgrade to 19.5 vision wheels and tires to increase my wheel rating even though trucks forged Aluminum 17 x 8.0 rims have been great. Just had these inspected yesterday and being 8 years old they found no cracks or damage. Nitto Durra 285/75r/ 17s with 3970 lbs. load index have performed very well but cannot document forged aluminum wheel load capacity. Do not know if there Alcoa wheels. So going to 19.5s for added insurance due to size and weight of my Lance 990 legend 11' 3" dry bath model.

Since it is a new truck with a boat load of warranties, I have to check out changing the tires voids the warranty, or I will have to go lighter (maybe a travel lite).

It has been 18 months....I just want to go CAMPING!!!!

Again, it is really great you are approaching this with an open mind and not cherry picking information to fit what you would like to hear, to fit your needs.

As for warranties, you have stated in another thread you have connections with your local Ford Dealership and that is good. But here is where you might find something different. That is when you are out on the road and might need some warranty work, what might be allowed (creative wording on the service order) at your local dealer, might not be allowed out of area, meaning a distant dealership. Make sure you verify warranty inclusions with someone that does not have their "hat" in the ring, like a regional office, for Ford.

Also, as you have done with your well sorted upgrades, a previous poster in just adding a "leaf" does not support the extra weight, alone. Additional upgrades to steering components, transmission, drive shaft, drive shafts, differential, suspension and braking/pad upgrades should be considered, too.

b

I agree and that's why I did more than just add a leaf. The only difference between the 2006 Dodge 2500 3/4 ton and the 1 ton 3500 srw is a factory swaybar and top overload leaf..Thats it! Brakes, transmission,.. axle..same as dually, steering components, drive shaft, differential, and suspension. All the same. When I got into the TC bug I had already bought the truck. I can assure you that when I upgrade to a newer TC in January there also will be a newer truck and it will at least be a dually.

bka0721 wrote:

TTBeachBum wrote:

billyray50 wrote:
Lonetow, My GVWR is 9000 on sticker but I installed an add a leaf to each rear pack. Think it added at least another 600 pounds of support. I am going to upgrade to 19.5 vision wheels and tires to increase my wheel rating even though trucks forged Aluminum 17 x 8.0 rims have been great. Just had these inspected yesterday and being 8 years old they found no cracks or damage. Nitto Durra 285/75r/ 17s with 3970 lbs. load index have performed very well but cannot document forged aluminum wheel load capacity. Do not know if there Alcoa wheels. So going to 19.5s for added insurance due to size and weight of my Lance 990 legend 11' 3" dry bath model.

Since it is a new truck with a boat load of warranties, I have to check out changing the tires voids the warranty, or I will have to go lighter (maybe a travel lite).

It has been 18 months....I just want to go CAMPING!!!!

Again, it is really great you are approaching this with an open mind and not cherry picking information to fit what you would like to hear, to fit your needs.

As for warranties, you have stated in another thread you have connections with your local Ford Dealership and that is good. But here is where you might find something different. That is when you are out on the road and might need some warranty work, what might be allowed (creative wording on the service order) at your local dealer, might not be allowed out of area, meaning a distant dealership. Make sure you verify warranty inclusions with someone that does not have their "hat" in the ring, like a regional office, for Ford.

Also, as you have done with your well sorted upgrades, a previous poster in just adding a "leaf" does not support the extra weight, alone. Additional upgrades to steering components, transmission, drive shaft, drive shafts, differential, suspension and braking/pad upgrades should be considered, too.

b

Exactly, this is why we don't want to have to make it fit; we want the camper to fit within the limitations/maximum that the truck can handle. That was the argument with the dealer, the added weight puts wear and tear on all that you mentioned. If that means giving up the room with an 1191 to downsize to a 950S (still researching) that is what we will do. I would love to cherry-pick what I want to hear but have learned reality will smack me hard across the face or wallet. I have to research the heck out of everything to make sure we are making a sound decision. We jumped a bit too soon earlier (because I am anxious) but we are doing our homework. No guarantee but the best lesson is learning from someone else’s mistakes/experiences.

We won't be spending weeks in the unit, just overnights at the beach (hopefully soon).

Thanks for all the comments.

TTBeachBum wrote:

billyray50 wrote:
Lonetow, My GVWR is 9000 on sticker but I installed an add a leaf to each rear pack. Think it added at least another 600 pounds of support. I am going to upgrade to 19.5 vision wheels and tires to increase my wheel rating even though trucks forged Aluminum 17 x 8.0 rims have been great. Just had these inspected yesterday and being 8 years old they found no cracks or damage. Nitto Durra 285/75r/ 17s with 3970 lbs. load index have performed very well but cannot document forged aluminum wheel load capacity. Do not know if there Alcoa wheels. So going to 19.5s for added insurance due to size and weight of my Lance 990 legend 11' 3" dry bath model.

Since it is a new truck with a boat load of warranties, I have to check out changing the tires voids the warranty, or I will have to go lighter (maybe a travel lite).

It has been 18 months....I just want to go CAMPING!!!!

Again, it is really great you are approaching this with an open mind and not cherry picking information to fit what you would like to hear, to fit your needs.

As for warranties, you have stated in another thread you have connections with your local Ford Dealership and that is good. But here is where you might find something different. That is when you are out on the road and might need some warranty work, what might be allowed (creative wording on the service order) at your local dealer, might not be allowed out of area, meaning a distant dealership. Make sure you verify warranty inclusions with someone that does not have their "hat" in the ring, like a regional office, for Ford.

Also, as you have done with your well sorted upgrades, a previous poster in just adding a "leaf" does not support the extra weight, alone. Additional upgrades to steering components, transmission, drive shaft, drive shafts, differential, suspension and braking/pad upgrades should be considered, too.

b

billyray50 wrote:
Lonetow, My GVWR is 9000 on sticker but I installed an add a leaf to each rear pack. Think it added at least another 600 pounds of support. I am going to upgrade to 19.5 vision wheels and tires to increase my wheel rating even though trucks forged Aluminum 17 x 8.0 rims have been great. Just had these inspected yesterday and being 8 years old they found no cracks or damage. Nitto Durra 285/75r/ 17s with 3970 lbs. load index have performed very well but cannot document forged aluminum wheel load capacity. Do not know if there Alcoa wheels. So going to 19.5s for added insurance due to size and weight of my Lance 990 legend 11' 3" dry bath model.

Since it is a new truck with a boat load of warranties, I have to check out changing the tires voids the warranty, or I will have to go lighter (maybe a travel lite).

It has been 18 months....I just want to go CAMPING!!!!

arto_wa wrote:

burningman wrote:

arto_wa wrote:
3263 lbs is almost 1.5 tons!

I don't think it is a good match to be hauling 1.5 ton slide in camper in a 3/4 ton pickup.

Yes many people are doing it, including myself few years ago :D

You do know that "3/4 ton" doesn't literally mean 1500 pound payload right?
It's just an old term from 75 years ago when pickups were spindly little things.

Yes, I am aware of that.

I think all of us also know that his F250 would be overloaded :W

Which is what I am trying to avoid and picking all of your brains

HarryBB wrote:
Go ahead and add all the mods you want. Drive it for a few thousand miles and you will be looking for more truck.

:R just upgraded the truck, not an option...

Lonetow, My GVWR is 9000 on sticker but I installed an add a leaf to each rear pack. Think it added at least another 600 pounds of support. I am going to upgrade to 19.5 vision wheels and tires to increase my wheel rating even though trucks forged Aluminum 17 x 8.0 rims have been great. Just had these inspected yesterday and being 8 years old they found no cracks or damage. Nitto Durra 285/75r/ 17s with 3970 lbs. load index have performed very well but cannot document forged aluminum wheel load capacity. Do not know if there Alcoa wheels. So going to 19.5s for added insurance due to size and weight of my Lance 990 legend 11' 3" dry bath model.

HarryBB wrote:
Go ahead and add all the mods you want. Drive it for a few thousand miles and you will be looking for more truck.

That is exactly what I ended up doing few years ago :o

4000 lbs. when loaded plus the 3,000 lbs of the truck when empty on the rear drive wheels puts a load of 3500 lbs. per tire in the rear. Stock tires will be at 3200 lbs. or less.

Toyo or Nitto have 3750 rated tires or you can go to 19.5 rims and tires and get 4400 lbs. per tire. The 19.5 option will cost an additional $2500 over getting the Nitto or Toyo tires and putting them on your existing rims. These tires do require a 7.5" or wider rim so this would need to be confirmed for your factory wheels.