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- drittalExplorer
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I do agree with you though as to DEF getting introduced into the fuel system from a spill. Without a cap if someone was careless or even say the plastic hose had a split in it or poped out of the filler neck DEF could get into the fuel tank.
Even a small amount of DEF can and WILL damage the fuel system and engine. The first thing all of the manufactures do when confronted with a blown diesel engine running DEF is to ask for the fuel filter, fuel samples and sometimes the ECM.
Don
This isn't possible on 2500/3500. I have tried to put fuel additive without the special funnel. Stick the neck of the stanadyne bottle into the fuel spout and it all runs onto the ground. It has to get past the second door even if a splash somehow gets past the first door. - BumpyroadExplorer
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Well then I have a defective filler tube then, because I pushed the fuel nozzle into only the first flap and squeezed the handle. No one drop of fuel was found under my truck. Do you really think the EPA would let any vehicle manufacture allow fuel to spill on the ground?
We had this discussion over at the Ecodiesel site and that is what prompted me to try it.
Don
shinerbock knows better. :)
bumpy - Perrysburg_DodgExplorerWell then I have a defective filler tube then, because I pushed the fuel nozzle into only the first flap and squeezed the handle. No one drop of fuel was found under my truck. Do you really think the EPA would let any vehicle manufacture allow fuel to spill on the ground?
We had this discussion over at the Ecodiesel site and that is what prompted me to try it.
Don - ShinerBockExplorer
Bird Freak wrote:
I'm confused. Did this law suit have anything to do with the capless fuel fillers are did yall just decide thats what you wanted to talk about?
No, the lawsuit has nothing to do with the capless fuel filler and seems to be about moisture in the SCR which is an exhaust part. They are just talking about putting caps on the the capless filler to justify their fear due to ignorance of how the capless filler works. - jus2shyExplorer
Bird Freak wrote:
I'm confused. Did this law suit have anything to do with the capless fuel fillers are did yall just decide thats what you wanted to talk about?
Something mentioned about moisture, some assume moisture in fuel, I read it as moisture in the SCR system.... yeah, this went on a tangent. - Greene728Explorer
otrfun wrote:
Whether there's any risk of contamination using the Ram 2500/3500 capless system as-is is probably open to debate.
On the flipside, I would venture to say it would be pretty difficult to argue that an aftermarket cap is going to harm these trucks in any way.
For me, the negligible to 100 percent chance the aftermarket cap may offer some protection against a damaged engine was easily worth the $20 I spent.
Ding ding ding!!!
I bought the Billet cap and love it. I don't care if it's needed or not. Bought mine on Amazon and it's the best $20 I ever spent to not have to be concerned about it anymore. - Bird_FreakExplorer III'm confused. Did this law suit have anything to do with the capless fuel fillers are did yall just decide thats what you wanted to talk about?
- whjcoExplorer
LIKE2BUILD wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I note that the article mentions moisture. I find it interesting that they don't/didn't on a 2016 or 15 use a gas/diesel cap on the fuel "port". have some funky rubber gasket like thing on the fuel door and once water gets past that it has free entry into the fuel tank.
bumpy
Me too. My '14 has the 'capless filler neck' and as soon as I saw that I didn't like it. THere is a gasket on the fuel door but big flipping deal. It's still too much a chance for moisture.
I went online and got a billet aluminum fuel cap with o-ring. I just didn't like the idea of that filler neck being open to the world, even if it did have a spring loaded door.
Mine came with a plastic insert with an o-ring on it. I ordered one of the aluminum billet caps and have been real happy with it. Another plus is that it has a magnet in it so you can stick it on the back side of the filler door.
I have a 2015 2500 and haven't had a recall for this matter, yet. However, my CEL came on a couple of months ago and they replaced the catalytic converter on it under warranty.
Bill J., Lexington, KY - ShinerBockExplorer
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I do agree with you though as to DEF getting introduced into the fuel system from a spill. Without a cap if someone was careless or even say the plastic hose had a split in it or poped out of the filler neck DEF could get into the fuel .
Even in that scenerio, DEF would still not get in the fuel tank. If you went out to your truck and poured water into your tank and only opened that first flap, the only thing that would happen is it would seep out of the hole between the two flaps. You would have to insert something long enough (and strong enough) to open the second flap in order to get water in the tank.
If you want to test it out and see, get a fuel can of diesel. Try and get diesel in the tank without using the special funnel needed to open the second flap. Then look under your truck to see all the diesel that is coming out of the weep hole and falling to the ground. - otrfunExplorer IIWhether there's any risk of contamination using the Ram 2500/3500 capless system as-is is probably open to debate.
On the flipside, I would venture to say it would be pretty difficult to argue that an aftermarket cap is going to harm these trucks in any way.
For me, the negligible to 100 percent chance the aftermarket cap may offer some protection against a damaged engine was easily worth the $20 I spent.
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